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    No, but there's an underlying assumption in a lot...

    No, but there's an underlying assumption in a lot of these discussions that Toronto will be left behind in 3-4 years as all these teams with all these picks and young players become dominant or...
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    So after two more years of being in last place in...

    So after two more years of being in last place in the league the Nets stable of young players will probably surpass a perennial top-4 playoffs team's. I guess that's looking on the bright side.....
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    Well, in fairness, if Leonard and Parker were...

    Well, in fairness, if Leonard and Parker were healthy it would have been more of a series with GSW. That was bad luck. If Curry and Durant were both hurt and the Warriors at full strength I think the...
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    Meh, it's all about expectations. Expectations...

    Meh, it's all about expectations. Expectations were high this season coming off a near 60-win campaign and the ECF appearance. They didn't meet those expectations in either the regular season or the...
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    It reminds me of being 10 or so again when the...

    It reminds me of being 10 or so again when the Lakers and Celtics were so far ahead of everyone else it was almost a joke. I remember the infamous Larry Bird "I'm only playing with my left hand" game...
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    I said no one was happier to see Durant go to GSW...

    I said no one was happier to see Durant go to GSW than Lebron. He beats that team two years in a row and he's right there with Jordan.
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    Wow. For people talking about how the Raps got...

    Wow. For people talking about how the Raps got blasted, this is way worse. Barkley and Smith playing cards was significant disrespect.
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    Democrats played Republicans for fools with the...

    Democrats played Republicans for fools with the special prosecutor. The Dems never would have caved on this if the roles has been reversed (i.e. Hilary Clinton who demonstrably broke the law was...
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    You don't run a billion dollar organization on...

    You don't run a billion dollar organization on the basis that a new direction could possibly be better than the status quo.

    Anyway, I think my part in this has run its course. I'm not buying into...
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    Maybe, but the alternative is not: a) tear down,...

    Maybe, but the alternative is not: a) tear down, b) rebuild, c) turn into true, elite contending team, d) multiple championships.

    It's more like: a) tear down, b) rebuild c) turn into [____], d)...
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    You don't tear down a team that is in the top 4...

    You don't tear down a team that is in the top 4 of the conference, has won more games than any other eastern conference team in the last 4 seasons, and is a top 5-6 team in the NBA. You just don't....
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    And it's both. You can point to the Celts getting...

    And it's both. You can point to the Celts getting slaughtered and acknowledge that the Lebrons are just too good for anyone in the East and people shouldn't run around with their hair on fire,...
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    Disappointing card. It felt a lot like a UFC card...

    Disappointing card. It felt a lot like a UFC card from years ago with the grappling/wrestling specialists dominating the early fights (Maia/Edgar). Dos Santos wanted absolutely nothing to do with...
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    I really don't like GSW. There is way too much...

    I really don't like GSW. There is way too much celebrating and showboating and mugging for cameras and such. I love that stuff when it's done at appropriate times but you watch some of their games...
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    Man, you guys are cynical.....

    Man, you guys are cynical.....
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    Opinions vary....

    Opinions vary....
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    I'm going to leave this model here for people to...

    I'm going to leave this model here for people to think about in conjunction with this topic....

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzIYUL4UoAQ9oBg.jpg
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    Rockets went 13/40 from three and were ice cold...

    Rockets went 13/40 from three and were ice cold when the game was decided in the first half. It absolutely was a 3-point shouting contest. They missed them all. They were 16/48... repeat, 16/48 in...
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    You fail to see any benefit to winning 50 games a...

    You fail to see any benefit to winning 50 games a year and making the playoffs for 2-3 more years as the probable second best team in the conference? Okay, then.
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    Well, except the basis for the ever increasing...

    Well, except the basis for the ever increasing revenue pie is stupid tv executives. With ESPN in freefall and the massive losses Rogers is eating on its hockey deal, I'm not so sure the ever...
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    Um, you realize Comey wasn't the actual FBI. He...

    Um, you realize Comey wasn't the actual FBI. He was one guy. He doesn't have 'special documents' locked away in his office. I think you need to get a grip. The new guy taking over is an actual...
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    Different sports. The NBA has always been thus....

    Different sports. The NBA has always been thus. It's like people can't remember more than 2 years back. In fact, you can make an argument that the league has never had more parity at the elite level...
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    Again, another situation where organizational...

    Again, another situation where organizational values like toughness and resilience were not being furthered by actual practices and/or personnel. Cultural issue....
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    1) Not sure how that happens if no Lowry. Why...

    1) Not sure how that happens if no Lowry. Why would Ibaka stay?
    2) I can't wrap my head around blowing up a 50+ win team that is still probably the second best team in the conference. I can't...
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    Grange is pretty dialled in at MLSE. I'm inclined...

    Grange is pretty dialled in at MLSE. I'm inclined to trust his read of the situation when it comes to management stuff there. But, I agree with you, I certainly didn't hear what he did. But he...
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