As twisted as I can be about .........(oops, better be careful about how candid I am about my own faults/errors, because Nilballsa will sneak up from behind like a sniveling weasel and use it against me tomorrow, next week, next month, 6 months from now). Never mind.
Even though I've been accepting the reality of disappointment in Bargnani's lack of consistency and achieving the best he can be,,,,, and wanting him moved out as well, the incessant mud slinging here, and the booing him as he steps on the floor, has me praying he does the totally unexpected (yes, by me too) and totally turns it around, almost as much to stick it to some people, as it would benefit the Raps in getting value for him.
PS. I fail to see how responding with simply referring to me as the second coming of someone being dissed or laughed about, is in any way "respect" for a different opinion.
Last edited by p00ka; Tue Mar 5th, 2013 at 07:32 PM.
The reality is when bargnani is healthy enough to play and he does so, this team sucks.
I think isolated stats such as "if he scores 20+ points, the team is ___ this record" are very telling in one's ability to really impact a game, good or bad. But, it likely doesn't tell the whole story, because one player does not win/lose a basketball game.
I've never been a huge stat guy other than individual averages.. Never really believed in stats in general though. In a game like basketball, some of the best players in the league are totally opposite of what analytic's guys want to see.
For the record, I'm pro P00ka 30% of the time.
I'm not sure that you can go as far as to say the more bargnani scores the more likely we are to lose, but Bargs has had 3-4 coaches now, and I think he has shown poor shot selection for a number of years, possibly his whole career? People used to compare him to a Dirk Nowitzki then a Dirk-lite, and now NOBODY is making any Dirk comparison's. Shot selection is only one of those reasons, but it is a very easy point to poor shot selection as contributing offensive inefficiency. It'd be nice if we could improve shot selection of the entire team, either by players improving themselves or by better coaching schemes.
"They're going to have to rename the whole conference after us: Toronto Raptors 2014-2015 Northern Conference Champions" ~ ezzbee Dec. 2014
"I guess I got a little carried away there" ~ ezzbee Apr. 2015
"We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon
The real point isn't any of this tho. He has no idea how to make other players better. I agree that his shot selection is terrible, but that's not the reason why everyone hates him.
It's that his play is inconsequential. He doesn't help the team in anyway.
Bottom line is whatever he brings to the table ie 26 points every 10 games is nothing we couldn't get out of pretty much any player in the league who could shoot
IMO he has to prove to the team that he deserves to play every minute that he is given.
I honestly don't know how he looks Amir in the eye everyday
i'd even argue that i'm somewhat of a troll, without intention.. as i generally derail conversations and distract from what the actual talking points are...
then there's the people who seed negativity... they just aren't enjoyable at all... i can't even understand how being a dick is entertaining for somebody... i used to get into it with the kinds of trolls who like attacking people, and have the mod warning emails as my battle scars.. but it's just not even worth it to play that game..
there's plenty of people here... well informed people.. with points of view both supporting your own, and going against yours... to foster really great conversations... there's threads i won't even touch, knowing what kind of thing i'd bring to the conversation (ie/ some kind of analogy involving strippers, pubic hair, and fingers in places on bodies that are usually exit points), i don't want to degrade the ongoing dialogue..
it's like when you're getting a REALLY good lapdance... nothing that crosses any legality lines... but just damn solid lapdance.. solid grind, decent above the pants stick work, great rack yet not shoving your face in them like that's their only trick, doesn't stink too much of that cheap victoria's secret body spray... then, the girl ups the ante by dropping your pants a bit and basically giving you a lapdance on your underwear...
that there is a solid dance that you can go home and relive in your head while you're getting down with your girlfriend...
you don't screw that dance up by stinking a thumb up her bum
Just to clarify because I recall someone in this thread mention that "they" (MultiPaul & Tim W.) were both banned. MultiPaul? Yes. Tim? No. Tim choose to leave on his own accord. Had too much "bangin' his head against the wall" with his peers. It was shame because he was one of my personal favourite contributors here at RR. I've reached out to him since then to see if he'd reconsider coming back, but to no avail. Buddahfan was another solid contributor here as well. If I recall correctly, he got tired of arguing here at RR. That personally doesn't make sense to me because at the end of the day, isn't that what message boards are for? If we all agreed on everything and had one big circle jerk, wouldn't that make a discussion forum obsolete? I don't get it but they're welcome to return at any point.
it's like people on twitter who have thousands of followers... but only follow like 10 people... well, then what the hell is the point? just start a blog. don't join a social network just to pimp yourself, without being social.
Eh follow my TWITTER!
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