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slaw wrote: View PostI'm just curious is all. I keep seeing all these posts about how good our players are and about how us cynics are overrating other teams' players and underestimating the Raps roster. So, I'm just wondering since all our players are so good, how many wins this year? If they have 3 or 4 guys who are top ten at their position, shouldn't the answer be 50+? Just interested....
East:
Miami: Wade, LBJ, Bosh (actually all top 5 tbh)
Indy: PG, Granger, Hibbert, West
NY: Melo, Chandler, JR
BKN: DWill, KG, PP, B-Lo
CHI: Rose, Boozer, Deng, Noah
CLE: Kyrie, Bynum, Varejao (at least he was last year when healthy)
West:
OKC: KD, RW, Ibaka
SA: TD, Parker, maybe Manu and Kawhi
LAC: CP3, Griffin, Crawford
MEM: Conley (debatable), gasol, Z-Bo
GSW: Curry, Iguodala, Lee, Bogut (when healthy)
HOU: Harden, Dwight, Parsons (debatable)
NOLA: EG, Holiday, Anthony Davis
I specifically stated in the OP that this doesn't necessarily mean anything, I just wanted to know if people agreed that we have some top 10 positional guys.
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Xixak wrote: View PostNo it wouldn't be, stop putting words in our mouths. List of teams with 3 or more guys who are top 10 @ their position:
East:
Miami: Wade, LBJ, Bosh (actually all top 5 tbh)
Indy: PG, Granger, Hibbert, West
NY: Melo, Chandler, JR
BKN: DWill, KG, PP, B-Lo
CHI: Rose, Boozer, Deng, Noah
CLE: Kyrie, Bynum, Varejao (at least he was last year when healthy)
West:
OKC: KD, RW, Ibaka
SA: TD, Parker, maybe Manu and Kawhi
LAC: CP3, Griffin, Crawford
MEM: Conley (debatable), gasol, Z-Bo
GSW: Curry, Iguodala, Lee, Bogut (when healthy)
HOU: Harden, Dwight, Parsons (debatable)
NOLA: EG, Holiday, Anthony Davis
I specifically stated in the OP that this doesn't necessarily mean anything, I just wanted to know if people agreed that we have some top 10 positional guys.
East: Miami - 66 wins; Indy - 49; NY - 54; Brooklyn - 49 (with just D-Will and Lopez); Chi -No Rose, massive injurie, 45 wins;
West: OKC - 60; SA -58; LAC - 56; MEM - 56; GSW - 47.
So, why wouldn't 50+ wins be fair? What about 49? Those are the teams you referenced. Their records are clearly in the ~50 range. I just think it's odd to suggest that the Raps have that many top 10 players at their positions yet it doesn't mean anything, isn't relevant and doesn't necessarily translate into wins. All the teams you referenced clearly translated their talent into wins. If the Raps are that good, shouldn't we expect the same?
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slaw wrote: View PostWell, let's look at last year and the teams you referenced (not including the teams with new additions you've included).
East: Miami - 66 wins; Indy - 49; NY - 54; Brooklyn - 49 (with just D-Will and Lopez); Chi -No Rose, massive injurie, 45 wins;
West: OKC - 60; SA -58; LAC - 56; MEM - 56; GSW - 47.
So, why wouldn't 50+ wins be fair? What about 49? Those are the teams you referenced. Their records are clearly in the ~50 range. I just think it's odd to suggest that the Raps have that many top 10 players at their positions yet it doesn't mean anything, isn't relevant and doesn't necessarily translate into wins. All the teams you referenced clearly translated their talent into wins. If the Raps are that good, shouldn't we expect the same?
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chris wrote: View Postand all he's said is you've overvalued them based on the evidence in the W column
If Phil Jackson coached the Lakers last year do they barely make the playoffs and get swept in the 1st round?
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Xixak wrote: View PostIt's not all about the talent level of the players. It's also about fit and coaching.
If Phil Jackson coached the Lakers last year do they barely make the playoffs and get swept in the 1st round?
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Xixak wrote: View Post.
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Xixak wrote: View PostI'm actually not even a stats guy first, I'm about what I see on the court.
Klay might be a better fit on the Warriors because of his 3 ball but he is certainly not the better player. DeRozan who isn't even considered a great shot creator is far better at creating his own shot. He also does a better job of creating opportunities for his teammates with his drive and kick game. Additionally he has the 3rd best post game of any 2-guard in the league, Klay's post game is about as good as my ability to write in Ancient Greek.
Klay pretty much just has more range. He also plays on a more uptempo team which should inflate his scoring, yet DD still outscores him on the same # of shots. If we played at the Warriors pace DeMar would be over 20 a game.
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Blacklash2k4 wrote: View PostHow am I hating on Demar? So I hate Demar just because I like Thompson as a player better than Demar? I'm a hater just because I have an opinion? Raptors fans these days...
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