JimiCliff wrote:
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
ESPN 2013-14 East Standings [update: Post #86]
Collapse
X
-
Raptor_11 wrote: View PostI still think the Raptors have a better roster than washington. so I guess all these 'experts' think washington will be better based on John Wall becoming a perennial super-starisaacthompson wrote: View PostI don't get all the Wizards hype. Apparently John Wall, a second-year Bradley Beal and a 30-year-old Nene will carry this team to a playoff spot.JimiCliff wrote: View PostNumbers show that when they had a full roster last year, they played really, really well.JimiCliff wrote: View PostThat said, the hype is a little hard to understand. But it could just be that Wall is that good.Raptor_11 wrote: View PostDidn't they play well roughly around when the Raptors were playing well? As in, when the playoffs were set and nothing mattered anymore
Toronto started the year 4-21 and finished 30-28.... of course that was before a 7-2 #AprilFoolsGoldRun.
So remove each teams final 9 games after a dreadful 32 and 25 game start and Washington is 23-18 while Toronto is 23-26.
I think Washington is a lock assuming health and Webster didn't pull a classic contract year heist.
**As always one can't look at this in a vacuum. Certainly strength of schedule plays in to things but I think 41 and 49 games gives you a pretty good indication of what you're working with**
Comment
-
Matt52 wrote: View PostIt might have something to do with the fact they started the year 4-28 (all games without Wall) and finished the year 25-25.... of course that was before a 2-7 #ThisIsHowYouGetBallsApril.
Toronto started the year 4-21 and finished 30-28.... of course that was before a 7-2 #AprilFoolsGoldRun.
So remove each teams final 9 games after a dreadful 32 and 25 game start and Washington is 23-18 while Toronto is 23-26.
I think Washington is a lock assuming health and Webster didn't pull a classic contract year heist.
**As always one can't look at this in a vacuum. Certainly strength of schedule plays in to things but I think 41 and 49 games gives you a pretty good indication of what you're working with**
Neither of these teams were healthy last year, and they both had extreme ups and downs (mainly downs). I feel looking at the strength of the rosters (for the bubble teams in the east) will be more decisive for this seasons playoff race.
Mainly arguing this because I can't see John Wall carry this team into the playoffs since they were absolutely horrible without him. And I'm not saying the Raptors are better off, just that they should be in the same boat. I'd actually love to see John Wall tear shit up in the playoffs next year against the Heat
Comment
-
Matt52 wrote: View PostIt might have something to do with the fact they started the year 4-28 (all games without Wall) and finished the year 25-25.... of course that was before a 2-7 #ThisIsHowYouGetBallsApril."Stop eating your sushi."
"I do actually have a pair of Uggs."
"I've had three cups of green tea tonight. I'm wired. I'm absolutely wired."
- Jack Armstrong
Comment
-
Raptor_11 wrote: View PostI think these numbers are a little too selective to decide whether a team is "a lock"
Neither of these teams were healthy last year, and they both had extreme ups and downs (mainly downs). I feel looking at the strength of the rosters (for the bubble teams in the east) will be more decisive for this seasons playoff race.
Mainly arguing this because I can't see John Wall carry this team into the playoffs since they were absolutely horrible without him. And I'm not saying the Raptors are better off, just that they should be in the same boat. I'd actually love to see John Wall tear shit up in the playoffs next year against the Heat
Half the season for Washington and over half the season is included for Toronto.
The first 25 and 32 games were thrown out due to injuries for both teams.
The last 9 games were thrown out when teams are either resting for playoffs or tanking for balls. Washington did what Toronto should have done in the 2011-12 season: took April off to increase odds of getting a top 3 pick.Last edited by mcHAPPY; Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:52 PM.
Comment
-
Matt52 wrote: View PostWhat is selective? It doesn't paint Toronto in a favourable light?
Half the season for Washington and over half the season is included for Toronto.
The first 25 and 32 games were thrown out due to injuries for both teams.
The last 9 games were thrown out when teams are either resting for playoffs or tanking for balls.
I guess what I should have asked is if the 23-18 stretch is what has you and others sold on the wizards. In the end, it's still a small, selected sample size
Comment
-
Raptor_11 wrote: View PostI guess what I should have asked is if the 23-18 stretch is what has you and others sold on the wizards. In the end, it's still a small, selected sample size
Comment
-
drunkmunky wrote: View PostIf John Wall has such a great opportunity to blow everything up, I think the same should be given to Rudy Gay.
Gay has been in the league for 7 years and is 27 at start of season.
Wall has been in the league for 3 years and is 23 at start of season.
I don't think Wall is a superstar in the making nor do I think he is worth a max extension, however, if we are playing the potential card, I'm rolling with Wall.
Comment
-
Okafor is not nearly what he once was but he was still a contributor. Looks like he has becoming an expiring contract with little to no value.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/okafor-out...herniated-disk
Should also help Toronto keep ahead of Washington. Given full health I would give the nod to Washington but if they start dropping bodies - and one big one is gone - I give edge to Toronto.
Comment
-
phez wrote: View Postdont understand why people still rank atlanta so high
Personally I think Smith is more 'exciting' but Millsap is a better player. For the stat geeks among us:
http://www.thenbageek.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids[]=6&player_ids[]=334
Comment
-
phez wrote: View Postdont understand why people still rank atlanta so highTwitter - @thekid_it
Comment
Comment