mountio wrote:
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Season Minny Raps
08-09 | 24-58 | - (no Amir)
09-10 | 15-67 | 40-42 (Bosh's final year here, Amir's first)
10-11 | 17-65 | 22-60
11-12 | 26-40 | 23-43
12-13 | 31-51 | 34-48
13-14 | 17-17 | 16-16
Love missed a big chunk of 12-13, but other than that, played at least about 3/4 of each season. He has also had teams that have at least as much, if not more overall talent than Toronto (I'd say more in the post-Bosh years). Yet they have not done significantly better in any season. They haven't even really been mediocre. They've been bad.
Is Love a more productive, "better" player than Amir? Yes. I fully acknowledge that. But is he a franchise player you can build a contender around? Not so sure. And while Amir isn't that guy, having him, a net positive on your team, at a bargain price for non-rookie scale guys, especially bigs, is excellent value, good for your team, and he could easily fit next to that elite player if you ever get him.
*Basically my argument is I'm very skeptical about Love, believing he wouldn't be worth the cost in assets if you have to trade, nor worth the cost in dollars because of how difficult it makes to try and build a winner with him, since I don't see him as the franchise player/leader on a contender. If he were that guy, I feel like it would show in Minnesota and so far it hasn't.
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