Talk about stuck in the MIDDLE!
The poll for Casey's extension is almost 50/50 and the poll for 50 wins is exactly 50%. This thread is so prophetic! RR is DIVIDED!!!
“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
Not a big Shumpert fan. Seems to have an inconsistent personality and matching game. A pretty good defensive player, but he can just take himself out of a game with bad fouls, or worse, thinking he's an offensive focal point. Can't see him as a long-term piece, and I can see his value declining.
NY will really struggle to make this deal work. The one rumoured, basically as you have it outlined, is not going to work with cap rules. And the only pieces Masai might want will be on really low salaries, including even expiring vets like Udrih and Martin.
Basically the easiest way to make a deal work is if the Raps take back Felton. Which would also, I think, make it hard for NY to avoid giving Masai what he wants (clearly Hardaway JR and a future 1st) in return. And Felton is probably a good enough PG to help keep developing players, while also not affecting any plans to pile up losses. His salary is not at all crippling, even though it would last another couple of years assuming he picks up his final year player option.
Lowry + Daye for Felton + Hardaway Jr. + Cole Aldrich (who will be waived) + future 1st round pick
Last edited by golden; Tue Jan 21st, 2014 at 07:42 PM.
For all of the guys who say that making a championship takes years ....
Yes, we know that. That is fact that no one can deny. But every step counts. Every move counts. Every opportunity counts. Being stuck in the middle this season and missing on a great drat is a step backward.
We have been stuck in the middle. This year was suppose to end that. Being stuck in the middle this year is SIMPLY a lost opportunity.
Every season counts and as we are now, we are missing on this season.
So, you can also make the argument that the Raptors are actually on a gradual and progressive climb, with the rebuild started by Colangelo, and MU now taking it to the next level (playoffs) & hopefully beyond. That's what the numbers say, anyway.
This suggests that all teams in the East outside of the top2 should be in the second category. Realistically, no team in the East did enough in the previous offseason to achieve #1. Well, many thought Brooklyn had a chance, but many also recognized the possibility it could be the disaster it has been so far.
The moves MU has made so far were moves in the right direction. Maybe we can't beat the best in the east, and maybe we can't tank, but moving Bargs and Gay were clearly great moves going forward. Everything that needs to be achieved certainly doesn't have to be this season. There is lots of time and moves to be made to keep us out of the middle, you just have to understand that a part of the process, regardless if you are building or rebuilding, is to travel through the middle.
Right now, we are stuck in the middle. If MU wants to take us next level, then he needs to make moves.
The BAD stuck-in-the MIDDLE: At or over the salary cap for two or more years by multiple over-paid contracts to UNDER-ACHIEVING players that cause your team to lose the majority of games, and your team is in the Eastern Conference that by default make the playoffs and out of the lottery or barely miss the lottery.
The good 0.500, not in treadmill (or GOOD treading water): Your team is loaded with multiple expiring contracts (at 2014) and some other contracts that have a team option to drop or amnesty next year. The longer and over 7 million dollar contracts are only held by the hardest working or All-Star caliber players that are under 27 years old.
MU got rid of two contracts that no other team will want to touch because they are locked to players that do not have the work ethic on or off the court that were all over 11 million dollars a year (Bargs: 12 million owed till end of 2014/2015, plays sh$t defense and does not make teammates better...Gay: assumed 19.3 million owed till end of 2014/2015, doesn't try hard enough to All-Star effort). This team WILL now have $13+ million dollars next year, and they might amnesty Fields if necessary, if MU cannot move him. We are not stuck in the middle this year at all.
Wouldn't surprise me to hear we're still paying the ghosts of Mourning, Olajuwon and Wilkens....
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