You don't know why you need to eat crow?? HAhahaha.....good one. From re-tooling, to rebuilding to straight tanking.....you always find a way to walk that tight rope. See you at the kitchen table in a week....i'm serving and you'll eat whats on your plate young man!
You're also making it sound like it would obviously have made us better....Well, if we traded DeMar for Millsap, we'd probably still have to trade Gay (who Casey would still be making our #1 option and who proved he's even more miscast in that role than DeMar), and have one of the weakest wing rotations in the league, making it hard for ours bigs to operate as Ds wouldn't have to pay much of any attention to our perimeter players. We'd arguably be even easier to gameplan for. I mean, Memphis has finally and rightly been struggling with their somewhat weak wing rotation because teams can focus on Gasol and Randolph, who are superior talents at the moment than Jonas and Millsap would be as a pairing. So how would TO fair? Hard to say it would've necessarily created a better situation.
Anyway, I don't mind that you think it would've been a good idea. It could've been (just like it could not have been). Just getting sick of you bringing it up in a lot of DeMar discussions over and over again. I would've also loved to trade Kyle for about 10 other PGs, or Gay for a better package than what we got....But these aren't even hindsight discussions. Hindsight is usually based on possibilities that were legitimately available, not fantasies.
Last edited by white men can't jump; Fri Jan 24th, 2014 at 04:17 PM.
Couple things to keep in mind when asking this "what if" trade:
1. DeMar's trade value was/is at the highest level possible right now; likely would have received better assets i.e. McLemore/Thornton/Thompson > Hayes/Salmons
2. Contractually, less money, so yeah.
3. I think the Raptors would still struggle, because unlike DeRozan, Gay is an awful passer, and has serious tunnel vision. There's nothing wrong with his eyes, it's just he doesn't choose to see.
Easy enough answer to me, Toronto would not be 4th with Rudy as the number 1.
Honestly, relax, I just took a few jabs at you. I'm actually having a good laugh as I write this. I apologize if you actually take those words as insulting, because i don't really mean to insult you. I just have a fairly good memory and remember the things you wrote MANY times.....we'ren't you expecting this?
You're right though, I'll just ignore the reference from now on.
Whether it's against me or any other poster, there's never a reason to make it personal, especially if you're throwing out insults (check the stickied post for forum rules).
I did expect it, but until DeRozan proves that he can score efficiently consistently, it's not justified.
Seriously, how can i address your flawed opinion?
Even though I still feel that way about his scoring efficiency, I've given him lots of respect, if you go check out other threads. I've gone so far as to say he (along with Lowry) should be on the EC all-star team this season. I've also said that he's showed himself much more worthy of his contract that he was when he signed it. I've never questioned him as a person, teammate or Raptors representative in the community.
You always seem to mix these two things into one, when they can be mutually exclusive.
I think one of the reasons I'm so hard on him is because he is a likable guy and would be great to have as a key player on a Raptors team that is a perennial contender. I so desperately want him to elevate his game to the next level but, despite all the hype, he hasn't been able to do so - at least not consistently. He's clearly not a #1 option but, as evidenced from the time playing alongside Gay (though Gay was a black hole, granted), he doesn't do as well when he isn't ball-dominant (compared to a guy like Ross, who barely needs to touch the ball to be successful) so it's a bit of a conundrum. Do you keep giving him #1 option quantity of touches and hope he improves his efficiency, or bring in a true #1 option and hope he doesn't disappear completely? Ross seems like a much better secondary scoring option to better balance the lineup, assuming a legit #1 scoring option was brought in as the starting PF/SF.
Given the emergence of Ross, I'd still personally prefer to move DeRozan (his value should be at an all-time high after potentially both an all-star appearance and leading his team to the playoffs) and bring another starting SF in, be it through the draft, trade or free agency (I'd keep DeRozan as 6th man, but the Raptors' cap situation prevents them from enjoying that luxury).
Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Fri Jan 24th, 2014 at 04:55 PM.
How does crow taste? Most birds are pretty delicious
This -debate- is absolutely hilarious looking from the outside
So I'm just gonna give a little tip to special1 here:
Wow, looking back at this; DeMar and Ross together for years to come (hopefully), it looks incredibly bright to me.
If only we'd traded DeRozan...
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