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  • #31
    GV is gonna want a payday of some kind...all of our leverage comes in RFA. Let him play up his value and see if a sign and trade is available...if not we keep him for something reasonable
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    • #32
      No doubt if a sweet deal that a GM can't refuse comes along, MU would deal, but I doubt anything is going to blow him out of the water. Besides, he's gone on record as saying the players/team will determine their fate. At this point, not only is he showing signs of coming out of his slump (btw, he arrived still recovering from injury), but this team is making waves in great part due to chemistry, and he's a big part of that chemistry with the bench, as well as spelling Kyle for easier minutes in the 2 PG set.

      He's an RFA with a good qualifying offer in July. MU will weigh the options then, but I doubt anything happens before then, unless part of a draft day move.

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      • #33
        thead wrote: View Post
        GV is gonna want a payday of some kind...all of our leverage comes in RFA. Let him play up his value and see if a sign and trade is available...if not we keep him for something reasonable
        wouldn't be surprised of ujiri told lowry to 'have knee issues' so vasquez can play it up.

        lowry has an 'injury' without an injury? please. training staff would have wanted him to sit out if he had that issue from beginning of last week.

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        • #34
          drunkmunky wrote: View Post
          wouldn't be surprised of ujiri told lowry to 'have knee issues' so vasquez can play it up.

          lowry has an 'injury' without an injury? please. training staff would have wanted him to sit out if he had that issue from beginning of last week.
          I doubt MU suggests to Lowry to fake an injury just so his backup can get some more minutes in order to play up his value. What if GV drops the ball? The plan backfires and the team possibly loses games while a healthy Lowy sits on the bench, and GV's value goes down as well. No, no I very much doubt any such thing would be going on, especially when we are competing for homecourt in the first round.

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          • #35
            Axel wrote: View Post
            GSW or Brooklyn immediately come to mind as wanting back-up PG help. GV isn't going to be a great return.
            Isn't that why they went out and got Jordan Crawford?
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            • #36
              isaacthompson wrote: View Post
              Isn't that why they went out and got Jordan Crawford?
              Crawford is really more of a SG. I'm sure they'd prefer a true PG but wont overpay and run with Crawford if need be.
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              • #37
                Zach Lowe has written a bunch of articles where he mentions 'Andre Miller, PhD', based off his knowledge of passing lanes and angles. I guess if Zach Lowe has so many good things to say about him he's got to be good for something... maybe not a perfect deadline fit, but I can understand the interest.

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                • #38
                  Keep Him!!! He knows how the Sacromento Raptors work, he is a good backup but yet he is not good enough for the media to start making that stupid "who is the starting point guard" argument and also he loves playing here.

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                  • #39
                    just a scenario that might develop here.. say LA trades Pau to Suns for Okafor and a first round pick and they ll be 3 mill short of avoiding luxury tax... they turn to Steve and say we are gonna try to send you to canada where you can retire with respect but so sorry for your ring chance.. and LA with that Suns pick trade Steve for GV and fillers like non guarateed contracts.*stone*.

                    does that make sense or what..? anyone against it?

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                    • #40
                      ball4life wrote: View Post
                      just a scenario that might develop here.. say LA trades Pau to Suns for Okafor and a first round pick and they ll be 3 mill short of avoiding luxury tax... they turn to Steve and say we are gonna try to send you to canada where you can retire with respect but so sorry for your ring chance.. and LA with that Suns pick trade Steve for GV and fillers like non guarateed contracts.*stone*.

                      does that make sense or what..? anyone against it?
                      You're on to something about LA trying to get under the luxury tax; resetting that repeater rate would be a powerful motivator for shedding a little more salary, and they've got to make a move before the deadline if they want to do so. Problem is we're only 3.6 under the tax threshold ourselves. Getting the salaries just right so that neither Toronto nor LA pays luxury tax would be threading a needle. Assuming an Okafor/Gasol trade straight up, what we receive from them needs to be between 2.7 and 3.6 less than what they give us; but what we give them needs to be worth at least 66% of the incoming salary. So for Nash that leaves you with a range of 6.1 to 6.6 million; less and the trade doesn't work, more and we're paying luxury tax. For example, Nash for Fields works straight up. Vasquez + Hansbrough + Daye or Stone or Buycks for Nash works. Vasquez + Novak is too low, but Vasquez + Novak + Buycks is too high. There's probably additional combinations available if you add more LA players to the mix.

                      And then there's the fact that we're paying a 40-year-old nearly $10 million to be a (presumably) back up PG next year, if he doesn't retire.

                      Another approach that fits both team's needs might be Kaman + Meeks + Farmer + draft pick for Vasquez, with Kaman's salary absorbed by the Gay exception. Both teams stay under the tax, they get their tank on with a decent backup PG they can resign with a cheap qualifying offer, and we get a passable backup C and PG, another wing, and they all expire at the end of the year.
                      Last edited by octothorp; Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:31 AM.

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                      • #41
                        sultkam wrote: View Post
                        Keep Him!!! He knows how the Sacromento Raptors work, he is a good backup but yet he is not good enough for the media to start making that stupid "who is the starting point guard" argument and also he loves playing here.
                        vasquez has definitely said he wants to have a starter position again. as for knowing how the SAC crew work, how many do you think we're actually going to keep?

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                        • #42
                          iblastoff wrote: View Post
                          vasquez has definitely said he wants to have a starter position again. as for knowing how the SAC crew work, how many do you think we're actually going to keep?
                          2Pat and Hayes (for one more year). Salmons is gone.

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                          • #43
                            webfeat wrote: View Post
                            2Pat and Hayes (for one more year). Salmons is gone.
                            Patterson is an RFA next season. At that point his asking salary will go up.

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                            • #44
                              Vasquez, is a pretty decent back up, but gets into trouble when he tries to do too much. Don't mind keeping him, and don't mind trading him if you can get a decent back up in return. We can also look to draft a back up pg since there seem to be a few good pg's in the draft this year.

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                              • #45
                                But those floaters...

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