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  • blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    All head coaches are year-to-year. I would only replace Casey for a better coach -- think SVG, and maybe 5 other coaches. No sideways steps. No backwards steps. People are nitpicking a coach who only coaches to win (to the detriment of the team when they were bad). Ridiculous. No sensible GM would fire a HC who has the ear of his locker room unless it is a significant upgrade. Significant upgrade. Significant. Enough of this nonsense. Isn't there 3 threads on this already this season?
    Here's the problem with hiring someone you will predict to be a "better" coach. It can go horribly wrong. 5 years ago, Mike D'Antoni was thought to be a top 2 coach in the league. Anyone still think that? He had the right situation in Phoenix with the right type of players who could run his game. Otherwise, things go poorly.

    We know Casey is approximately the right type of coach for these players. Are there people out there who could do a better job with this group? Almost certainly. Good luck guessing who, though. You are much more likely to go a step down due to trying to change the playing style than you are to be successful.
    That is a normal collar. Move on, find a new slant.

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    • Other Scott wrote: View Post
      Here's the problem with hiring someone you will predict to be a "better" coach. It can go horribly wrong. 5 years ago, Mike D'Antoni was thought to be a top 2 coach in the league. Anyone still think that? He had the right situation in Phoenix with the right type of players who could run his game. Otherwise, things go poorly.

      We know Casey is approximately the right type of coach for these players. Are there people out there who could do a better job with this group? Almost certainly. Good luck guessing who, though. You are much more likely to go a step down due to trying to change the playing style than you are to be successful.
      Yeah maybe 3-5 coaches are really the cream of the crop. Casey is a good coach in my opinion, and his strengths fit this team quite well. We've got a tough team capable of strong defensive showings, and that's who Casey is. One of the most important things in your coach is whether or not he suits the personnel.
      "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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      • Other Scott wrote: View Post
        Here's the problem with hiring someone you will predict to be a "better" coach. It can go horribly wrong. 5 years ago, Mike D'Antoni was thought to be a top 2 coach in the league. Anyone still think that? He had the right situation in Phoenix with the right type of players who could run his game. Otherwise, things go poorly.

        We know Casey is approximately the right type of coach for these players. Are there people out there who could do a better job with this group? Almost certainly. Good luck guessing who, though. You are much more likely to go a step down due to trying to change the playing style than you are to be successful.
        D'Antoni? Serious? I NEVER thought he was of that ilk. You know what wins? Defense. You know what D'Antoni doesn't coach? Defense. Before you "guess" what I "think" I suggest you have a look at my comments. My +1000 plus thoughts are always well thought. Sometime flawed but never as dumb as thinking that a slightly above average coach who doesn't coach defense is better than a better than average coach who coaches defense.

        Give me a break.

        When I mention SVG and "5 others" most people on this site know who those handful are: Karl, Pop, JVG, Phil Jackson, and depending on who you ask Hollins (that whole not liking analytics makes me woozy on him though -- My 5th is usually Coach K). Do I have to list my guys just because you want to pretend to know what's in my mind?...jokes.

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        • Other Scott wrote: View Post
          Here's the problem with hiring someone you will predict to be a "better" coach. It can go horribly wrong. 5 years ago, Mike D'Antoni was thought to be a top 2 coach in the league. Anyone still think that? He had the right situation in Phoenix with the right type of players who could run his game. Otherwise, things go poorly.

          We know Casey is approximately the right type of coach for these players. Are there people out there who could do a better job with this group? Almost certainly. Good luck guessing who, though. You are much more likely to go a step down due to trying to change the playing style than you are to be successful.
          The bold could be said about every single coaching hire and fire ever. The GM is paid millions to do the research and find the right coach. The GM either knows what the fuck they're doing or they don't. All this nonsense of SVG or bust is just fucking nonsense. Two examples of superior coaches hired just last season.
          Budenholzer in Atlanta is clearly a superior coach to Casey and was just hired last year, no head coaching experience prior. Jeff Hornacek is clearly a better coach than Casey, just hired last year, no head coaching experience. These guys are out there.

          If a GM is worth anything (I think Masai is one of the best), he will be able to find a coach and won't poop his pants wondering "what if" it doesn't work out. Rehiring Casey because it's safe is exactly how franchises get stuck in the middle, and Masai won't get us stuck there.

          The argument to keep Casey is like an argument to have kept Calderon over Lowry. Calderon had been here (stability), he was really good at one aspect of the game and very bad at another (good offense, bad defense), and he was safe (you know what you get). Lowry was risky (fought with head coaches, inconsistent, injuries, and never quite showed his potential), but the risk is worth it if it means you could win it all (finally, a true championship caliber PG in Lowry).

          I swear everyone has fucking amnesia over Casey's first 2 years here. He has been really bad the majority of his time as coach of Toronto.

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          • S.R. wrote: View Post
            Casey is a good coach in my opinion, and his strengths fit this team quite well. We've got a tough team capable of strong defensive showings, and that's who Casey is.
            Our strengths include

            1) Offensive rebounding
            2) Advantage in the paint
            3) Young guys
            4) Defense
            5) Toughness

            Defense is Casey's calling card

            Toughness I would argue is Lowry's stamp

            The rest however, Casey stifles and it really hurts the team at times.

            I think he is a stable, good coach. But I want a Wizard

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            • Shams Charania: Kevin Ollie's undoubtedly loyal to UConn, but he'll listen to any NBA coaching interest, sources tell RealGM. One of best young candidates. Twitter @ShamsCharania
              Shams Charania: Ollie hasn't yet received formal contact for NBA job, sources tell RealGM. Coaching promises to translate; prying out of alma mater is test. Twitter @ShamsCharania

              Ollie!

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              • If we lose games 6 and 7 we really need to give serious consideration to changing coaches. Casey's using Salmons over Fields is a huge mistake.

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                • psrs1 wrote: View Post
                  If we lose games 6 and 7 we really need to give serious consideration to changing coaches. Casey's using Salmons over Fields is a huge mistake.
                  If we lose this series it will be an epic fucking choke job. Casey should be fired on the spot if that happens. The home team wins game 7 80% of the time, so the odds are still on our side.

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                  • Head Coach is not the problem. Lack of Talent is ... MU is a good GM in moving BAD contracts but has no wining record or a resume that shows he is able to make a competitive team.

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                    • psrs1 wrote: View Post
                      If we lose games 6 and 7 we really need to give serious consideration to changing coaches. Casey's using Salmons over Fields is a huge mistake.
                      So you think playing a one-armed man over a two-armed man would make him a better coach?

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                      • Primer wrote: View Post
                        If we lose this series it will be an epic fucking choke job. Casey should be fired on the spot if that happens. The home team wins game 7 80% of the time, so the odds are still on our side.
                        Depends how they lose for me. If the Raptors get their asses to them at home, you definitely have to start looking elsewhere. If they lose to some falling-out-of-bounds, hail-mary 3 or Amir's foot falls off halfway through the game, well you have to chalk that up to shit happens.

                        I think most fans are overrating the talent we have, to be honest.

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                        • bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
                          So you think playing a one-armed man over a two-armed man would make him a better coach?
                          Well, Fields has two legs, Salmons effectively has none. Salmons is a catastrophe at this point. This was his best game and it was still terrible. He is a ball stopper. His shooting has been dreadful. He dribbles himself into trouble a lot now since he has no burst, and ends up taking bad shots or making bad passes. Defensively he's not doing anything to stop JJ, and it's especially pointless to have him out there for defensive purposes if you're still going to have to double JJ on every possession and play with a handicap.

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                          • white men can't jump wrote: View Post
                            Well, Fields has two legs, Salmons effectively has none. Salmons is a catastrophe at this point. This was his best game and it was still terrible. He is a ball stopper. His shooting has been dreadful. He dribbles himself into trouble a lot now since he has no burst, and ends up taking bad shots or making bad passes. Defensively he's not doing anything to stop JJ, and it's especially pointless to have him out there for defensive purposes if you're still going to have to double JJ on every possession and play with a handicap.
                            Ugh. We need a real back-up 3. They're both damaged goods.

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                            • bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
                              Ugh. We need a real back-up 3. They're both damaged goods.
                              Yes, absolutely. This is priority #1 in the offseason. We need size at the 3. And it would be nice to get 2 quality (in terms of at least being actually serviceable) wings...aforementioned one with size, and one more with some sort of dependable skill set.

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                              • mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
                                Ollie!
                                Are you comfortable bringing in yet another inexperienced coach? I mean, the guy's coached what, 2 seasons of college?

                                Not saying its a bad idea, but I really would like to hear what the reasons are for him getting so much NBA attention, as I don't follow the college game too closely.

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