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Give me liberty or give me a bran muffin! - Colin Mochrie
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kopite91 wrote: View PostInteresting cause Nash did stress about the lack of international experience in this video. The fact that the kids haven't played in clubs in Europe and aren't familiar with their style of play and the rules in international ball....
On a side note, nice to see the expanded coverage of summer league and international ball. 5-10 years ago you couldn't see a lot of this stuff. Tip of the hat to NBATV Canada and the Cable Sports Channels
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kopite91 wrote: View PostInteresting cause Nash did stress about the lack of international experience in this video. The fact that the kids haven't played in clubs in Europe and aren't familiar with their style of play and the rules in international ball.
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JordanMariam14 wrote: View PostDeMar didn't prove anything when we picked him, and he improved. Wiggins is a much better prospect than DeRozan was 5 years ago, don't get my wrong I love DD, he's my favorite player in the world, but who do you think will have a better career?
And I said if we were to trade for Wiggins, why keep those guys who will be in their primes without an all star like DeRozan to help them get further in the playoffs? You think Wiggins is gonna lead them to the promise land at 20 or 21? No
IF we traded DD for Wiggins, then why would we keep a 25 year old Patterson, 27 year old Vasquez, 28 year old Lowry, 26 year old Amir and waste the years of their prime where we would get no where instead of trading them for picks, young players, and rebuild with Wiggins, Ross, Bruno, Bebe, JV, and those young players/picks acquired by the trades?
I asked if we would trade Wiggins (Canadian basketball player who has to do with this thread) for DeRozan straight up. That doesn't mean I'm saying Cavs would accept, I'm just playing the game of 'who would you rather have'.
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Also, I disagree that Andrew is a better prospect than DeMar was. Does he have more hype? More potential? Sure. But DeMar did more for USC than Wiggins did for Kansas.
Do I think Wiggins will become a better player than DeMar? Yes. But you don't build a team with excellent personal chemistry, create a culture, start winning, and then trade your best player. That would kill a locker room. It would set back the team by years.
The best thing for basketball in Canada is a Toronto Raptors that is consistently in the playoffs, that at some point has a legit shot at a title, and changes the media landscape of how basketball is reported. I don't care where the players are from.
Do I want Wiggins to one day wear a Raptors uniform? Yes. But not at the expense of destroying what is being built here.
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blackjitsu wrote: View PostYes, DeMar hadn't proven anything as a rookie, but he has now. My point is that the team as currently constructed, can't wait for Wiggins to pique. Trading DeMar for Wiggins sets the team back years, and puts leadership responsibilities on a kid who has never displayed those qualities.
Also, I disagree that Andrew is a better prospect than DeMar was. Does he have more hype? More potential? Sure. But DeMar did more for USC than Wiggins did for Kansas.
Do I think Wiggins will become a better player than DeMar? Yes. But you don't build a team with excellent personal chemistry, create a culture, start winning, and then trade your best player. That would kill a locker room. It would set back the team by years.
The best thing for basketball in Canada is a Toronto Raptors that is consistently in the playoffs, that at some point has a legit shot at a title, and changes the media landscape of how basketball is reported. I don't care where the players are from.
Do I want Wiggins to one day wear a Raptors uniform? Yes. But not at the expense of destroying what is being built here.
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Primer wrote: View PostThat is just the built in excuse if we do poorly, and I think it's bullshit. Pretty much everyone on team Canada played for team Canada junior teams growing up (Wiggins, Ennis, Bennett, Olynyk, etc....), so they all already have experience in that rule set. Also, it's still basketball, it's not that much different. Fucking Mexico won the America's last summer, with one fringe NBA talent and a team full of guys who don't play in Europe. No reason a team Canada with the talent we should have now doesn't steamroll every team in those America's tournaments.
Plus a lot of the Spanish, Lithuanian, French, American, Argentinian players work out together during the offseason and they have that built-in on-court chemistry. I'm not sure Heslip works out with Anthony or Sacre works out with Tristan... in contrast, most of the American stars like Harden, Durant, DD, Gay, Chris Paul, Kevin Love, Brandon Jennings play a lot of pickup ball in the summer and in the Drew League. I remember seeing this Grantland Derozan interview where he talks about how Chris Paul organizes a "secret" pickup game of sorts where he gets 20 of the best NBA players to scrimmage at some secret, last-minute location like the UCLA gym or the Clippers facility. Plus a lot of them have come up together in AAU ball and college. A lot of the Canadian guys have come up different paths to get to where they are.Give me liberty or give me a bran muffin! - Colin Mochrie
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An article on the men's national team and their upcoming European tour in the Toronto Sun:
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/07/20...-the-long-haul
NBAers Kelly Olynyk (Boston), Andrew Nicholson (Orlando), Cory Joseph (San Antonio) and Dwight Powell (Cleveland) were in camp Sunday and two more NBA prospects (Melvin Ejim and Jordan Bachynski) will arrive once done at Summer League in Las Vegas, but Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, Tristan Thompson, Nik Stauskas and Tyler Ennis likely will not attend.
CANADA’S SCHEDULE
Canada did not qualify for the World Cup in Spain later this summer, but the senior men will still play 11 exhibition games in order to get some much-needed experience ahead of Olympic qualifying next August.
July 24 vs. Slovenia (at Slovenia)
July 25 vs. Ukraine (at Slovenia)
July 26 vs. Georgia (at Slovenia)
August 1 vs. Croatia (at Croatia)
August 2 vs. Croatia (at Croatia)
August 3 vs. Serbia (at Italy)
August 4 vs. Italy (at Italy)
August 5 vs. Bosnia (at Italy)
August 6 vs. Spain (at Spain)
August 10 vs. Turkey (at Spain)
August 12 vs. Angola (at Spain)
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NBAers Kelly Olynyk (Boston), Andrew Nicholson (Orlando), Cory Joseph (San Antonio) and Dwight Powell (Cleveland) were in camp Sunday and two more NBA prospects (Melvin Ejim and Jordan Bachynski) will arrive once done at Summer League in Las Vegas, but Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, Tristan Thompson, Nik Stauskas and Tyler Ennis likely will not attend.
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Jordan Bachynski Centre
Jordan Baker Forward
Junior Cadougan Guard
Melvin Ejim Forward
Carl English Guard
Brady Heslip Guard
Cory Joseph Guard
Owen Klassen Forward
Andrew Nicholson Forward
Kelly Olynyk Forward
Dwight Powell Forward
Robert Sacre Centre
Philip Scrubb Guard
Thomas Scrubb Guard
Jevohn Shepherd Guard
Roster going to Europe .. No Kendel for first time in a long time
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kopite91 wrote: View Post
scroll forward to 3:15
scroll forward to 1:29
And now apparently we don't want enough lol!
Well if they are laid back and can achieve that, then imagine if they weren't laid back lol
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guyroch wrote: View PostJordan Bachynski Centre
Jordan Baker Forward
Junior Cadougan Guard
Melvin Ejim Forward
Carl English Guard
Brady Heslip Guard
Cory Joseph Guard
Owen Klassen Forward
Andrew Nicholson Forward
Kelly Olynyk Forward
Dwight Powell Forward
Robert Sacre Centre
Philip Scrubb Guard
Thomas Scrubb Guard
Jevohn Shepherd Guard
Roster going to Europe .. No Kendel for first time in a long time
Sportsnet.ca is saying that there is a chance still for Wiggins to join the team in Europe.
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