Page 28 of 29 FirstFirst ... 18 26 27 28 29 LastLast
Results 541 to 560 of 578

Thread: Raptors Salary Cap Situation (and planning for the future)

  1. #541
    Raptors Republic Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Cambridge, ON
    Posts
    9,930
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    And yes, if you buy out a player, you lose all rights to them. Also, another team with cap space would almost certainly grab DeRozan's 10M off the waiver wire.

  2. Like Miekenstien liked this post
  3. #542
    Raptors Republic Veteran Miekenstien's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    5,957
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    And yes, if you buy out a player, you lose all rights to them. Also, another team with cap space would almost certainly grab DeRozan's 10M off the waiver wire.
    thanks

  4. #543
    Super Moderator Cody73's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Oshawa
    Posts
    3,550
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Guys.... how much cap do we have with DD signed now?

    DanH, you should know this.
    Quote Axel wrote: View Post
    Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!
    It starts with ....

    "tenforthewin wrote:"

  5. #544
    Raptors Republic Veteran planetmars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    6,573
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Cody73 wrote: View Post
    Guys.... how much cap do we have with DD signed now?

    DanH, you should know this.
    DD has a cap hold of $15.5M. So that's basically his salary until everyone else gets signed. We have a little more than $5M in cap space left.

  6. #545
    Raptors Republic Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Cambridge, ON
    Posts
    9,930
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    DD has a cap hold of $15.5M. So that's basically his salary until everyone else gets signed. We have a little more than $5M in cap space left.
    Yeah. DD is not signed until after the moratorium, and they'll have guys sign contracts in an order that makes sense. DD, last, basically, if they plan to use cap room. So at this point, nothing has changed at all with regard to how much cap space we have.

  7. #546
    Raptors Republic All-Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    2,447
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Spencer Hawes is approx. 5.725m. can we absorb his contract?

  8. #547
    Raptors Republic All-Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    2,447
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Sorry 5.782. we have 5.5 available?

  9. #548
    Raptors Republic All-Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    2,447
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    We have 5.315m sooo no?

  10. Like Miekenstien liked this post
  11. #549
    Raptors Republic Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Cambridge, ON
    Posts
    9,930
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    We have either 5.45 or 5.75M in cap room (depending on some confusion over DD's incentives). I lean to 5.45M, but even 5.75M is not enough for Hawes' 6.35M cap hit. Where are you getting your Hawes salary?

  12. #550
    Raptors Republic Superstar 3inthekeon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    3,120
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Dan, how many years can a deal be if we use the MLE?

    Same length as using cap space?
    If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

  13. #551
    Raptors Republic Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Cambridge, ON
    Posts
    9,930
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote 3inthekeon wrote: View Post
    Dan, how many years can a deal be if we use the MLE?

    Same length as using cap space?
    4 years each. Early Bird re-signings (like JJ) can also be 4 years (must be at least 2 years).

    Room MLE and BAE are shorter (2 years each). If ever they get into the tax, the tax version of the MLE is 3 years.

  14. Like 3inthekeon liked this post
  15. #552
    Raptors Republic All-Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    2,447
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    We have either 5.45 or 5.75M in cap room (depending on some confusion over DD's incentives). I lean to 5.45M, but even 5.75M is not enough for Hawes' 6.35M cap hit. Where are you getting your Hawes salary?
    Bbref

  16. #553
    Raptors Republic Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Cambridge, ON
    Posts
    9,930
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote lewro wrote: View Post
    Bbref
    They are kind of useless for salary info. Use basketball-insiders if you need accurate numbers.

  17. #554
    Raptors Republic All-Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    1,321
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Why is the basketball salary cap so fucking complicated.... worst in sports.

  18. #555
    Raptors Republic Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Cambridge, ON
    Posts
    9,930
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote sanyo wrote: View Post
    Why is the basketball salary cap so fucking complicated.... worst in sports.
    You clearly are not intimately familiar with the NHL or MLB CBA's. NBA is complex but reasonable.

  19. #556
    Raptors Republic All-Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    1,321
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    You clearly are not intimately familiar with the NHL or MLB CBA's. NBA is complex but reasonable.
    MLB i actually understand and there is no bird rights or MLE or all this nonsense...

    Guy's deal ends. You can re-sign him, offer him a qualifying or let him go. Or first six years with the arb and all... and 10 years vet minimum stuff... thats pretty easy to understand...

    NHL to be fair I dont watch hockey much but I've heard it's somewhat complicated too with how tight the cap is... but still.

  20. #557
    Raptors Republic Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Cambridge, ON
    Posts
    9,930
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    MLB has all sorts of draft pick compensation, options, and other stuff that are more complex than anything in the NBA. But of course their actual cap is fairly nonexistent so salaries don't matter as much.

    NHL is a minefield.

  21. #558
    Raptors Republic Veteran KeonClark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    7,632
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    DanH:

    Taking a look at the Warriors for next year; in order to keep Durant when he ops out and resign Curry, by my math they'll have roughly 99 million tied up in their big 4 and rookie contracts (current rookies and next years)...with the cap being 102, does that actually mean they waive bye bye to Iguodala and Livingston and have to fill out the rest of the roster with 3 million dollars and vet mins?
    11/20/16 Lest we forget - The Sacramento Screw Job.
    We will not go quietly in the night. We will rage against the dying light. We will study every buzzer beater with intensified might, because somethin with the NBA doesn't smell right.

  22. #559
    Raptors Republic Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Cambridge, ON
    Posts
    9,930
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    DanH:

    Taking a look at the Warriors for next year; in order to keep Durant when he ops out and resign Curry, by my math they'll have roughly 99 million tied up in their big 4 and rookie contracts (current rookies and next years)...with the cap being 102, does that actually mean they waive bye bye to Iguodala and Livingston and have to fill out the rest of the roster with 3 million dollars and vet mins?
    To offer Durant his max (assuming nothing changes with the new CBA) they need cap room (his non-Bird Rights don't allow them to offer his max salary). His max is about 34M based on a 103 (new updated projection) cap. That means that can only have 69M on the cap when they sign him. Klay, Draymond, Looney, Jones, McCaw (and Jason Thompson's waived salary) make 38.5M, leaving them with 30.5M. Steph's cap hold is a no-brainer to keep (they can sign him to the max after) at 18.2M, leaving them with 12.3M. That's 6 roster spots spoken for, leaving 6 minimum salary spots. Those are rumoured to go up about double what they are now, so we'll assume 1M per spot. Now down to 6.3M (though each additional kept player takes a roster spot hold off). They have no first round picks next spring.

    They can keep Zaza's rights for 3.5M (though can't offer more than that if they do). That costs 2.5M, bringing them down to 3.8M. Can keep McAdoo for a QO of 1.25M, almost no cost (drops to 3.5M). But yeah, they can't fit Livingston or Iggy's cap holds in there.

    But, if Durant takes less than his max, and settles for a deal on the order of 4/136M (34M per year)... Then they can keep everyone. Because they can operate over the cap and use his non-Bird Rights to keep him. That's only a 2M per year cut.

    All this of course depends what happens with max salaries, Bird Rights, cap holds, etc, in the new CBA. We'll find out soon.

  23. #560
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    222
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    To offer Durant his max (assuming nothing changes with the new CBA) they need cap room (his non-Bird Rights don't allow them to offer his max salary). His max is about 34M based on a 103 (new updated projection) cap. That means that can only have 69M on the cap when they sign him. Klay, Draymond, Looney, Jones, McCaw (and Jason Thompson's waived salary) make 38.5M, leaving them with 30.5M. Steph's cap hold is a no-brainer to keep (they can sign him to the max after) at 18.2M, leaving them with 12.3M. That's 6 roster spots spoken for, leaving 6 minimum salary spots. Those are rumoured to go up about double what they are now, so we'll assume 1M per spot. Now down to 6.3M (though each additional kept player takes a roster spot hold off). They have no first round picks next spring.

    They can keep Zaza's rights for 3.5M (though can't offer more than that if they do). That costs 2.5M, bringing them down to 3.8M. Can keep McAdoo for a QO of 1.25M, almost no cost (drops to 3.5M). But yeah, they can't fit Livingston or Iggy's cap holds in there.

    But, if Durant takes less than his max, and settles for a deal on the order of 4/136M (34M per year)... Then they can keep everyone. Because they can operate over the cap and use his non-Bird Rights to keep him. That's only a 2M per year cut.

    All this of course depends what happens with max salaries, Bird Rights, cap holds, etc, in the new CBA. We'll find out soon.
    wow.

Page 28 of 29 FirstFirst ... 18 26 27 28 29 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •