View Poll Results: Casey has no contract after this season, so what happens?

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    If I laid out all the def rtg you could easily pick good defensive teams from the other 30, without prior knowledge. Picking Toronto def rtg from result in the middle would be hard. Clippers to Houston was 102.1 - 103.1. Good teams ranged from 96.7 -101.2
    I agree with you that we aren't elite defensively but we are pretty damn good. I personally would take top 10 in defense and offense than being elite in one and bad in the other but that's just me. We definitely won't agree on that.

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    Not Psycho T but Hayes yes. He can't be any worse than Hayes in all honesty. The ONLY thing Hayes is good at is guarding big men who are good at scoring in the post. He can't make the easiest layups (no touch around the basket), he can't block or alter any shots and he isn't good as the pick and roll defender because he's slow as hell. It's a big struggle for him to recover to his man after he hedges. Oh and he's a decent rebounder. I only put Bebe over Psycho T because I know Casey dislikes Psycho T for whatever reason and barely played him last year so he will probably do the same this year.
    Hands plays best as an energy big, short burst and limited. Hayes guarding low-post players is effective. Both Hands and Hayes are specialists. Bebe would be better against PnR offenses and replacing Amir than either.

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    I agree with you that we aren't elite defensively but we are pretty damn good. I personally would take top 10 in defense and offense than being elite in one and bad in the other but that's just me. We definitely won't agree on that.
    The only problem I have is calling Casey a defensive coach without any results. Its hard to watch the offense if they arent terrific defensively. Mark Jackson turned GSW, a team with Curry and Lee and without Bogut into an elite defensive team. Rivers fixed the Clippers defense without sacrificing offense. Casey's job shouldn't be considered anything close to safe.

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    The only problem I have is calling Casey a defensive coach without any results. Its hard to watch the offense if they arent terrific defensively. Mark Jackson turned GSW, a team with Curry and Lee and without Bogut into an elite defensive team. Rivers fixed the Clippers defense without sacrificing offense. Casey's job shouldn't be considered anything close to safe.
    You're starting to annoy me.

    The Warriors were 14th in defense in 2012-13. Bogut missed 50 games and they had no Iguodala.

    The Warriors were 4th in defense in 2013-14. Bogut missed just 15 games and Iguodala was added to the team.

    But yeah I'm sure the jump had NOTHING to do with adding two all-NBA caliber defenders to the starting 5. Give me a break.

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    Not Psycho T but Hayes yes. He can't be any worse than Hayes in all honesty. The ONLY thing Hayes is good at is guarding big men who are good at scoring in the post. He can't make the easiest layups (no touch around the basket), he can't block or alter any shots and he isn't good as the pick and roll defender because he's slow as hell. It's a big struggle for him to recover to his man after he hedges. Oh and he's a decent rebounder. I only put Bebe over Psycho T because I know Casey dislikes Psycho T for whatever reason and barely played him last year so he will probably do the same this year.
    Casey doesnt hate tyler. Hes clearly worse than patterson and amir so he cant really play at the 4 and hes undersized at the 5. The other team always exploited his lack of size. Chuck on the other hand, can stop the big guys like jefferson. Tyler cant
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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    The only problem I have is calling Casey a defensive coach without any results. Its hard to watch the offense if they arent terrific defensively. Mark Jackson turned GSW, a team with Curry and Lee and without Bogut into an elite defensive team. Rivers fixed the Clippers defense without sacrificing offense. Casey's job shouldn't be considered anything close to safe.
    My thing is I just don't understand how going to 30th in the league defensively to 9th or 10th is not showing huge results. Just because we aren't top 5? Like I don't get it

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    My thing is I just don't understand how going to 30th in the league defensively to 9th or 10th is not showing huge results. Just because we aren't top 5? Like I don't get it
    You should stop trying to get it raptors999 is either trolling or has no clue what he's talking about.

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    Casey doesnt hate tyler. Hes clearly worse than patterson and amir so he cant really play at the 4 and hes undersized at the 5. The other team always exploited his lack of size. Chuck on the other hand, can stop the big guys like jefferson. Tyler cant
    Yea but how many guys are there in the league like Jefferson. He is a rare breed. I understand playing Hayes against guys like Jefferson or Brook Lopez because his strength is guarding those kind of guys but to me any other matchup it should have been Tyler. Why would you continue to play Hayes if he's pretty much bad at everything else. Since Hayes is a specialist he should only get playing time on special occasions. I think hansbrough can handle the rest but for some reason Casey didn't see it that way.

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    Yea but how many guys are there in the league like Jefferson. He is a rare breed. I understand playing Hayes against guys like Jefferson or Brook Lopez because his strength is guarding those kind of guys but to me any other matchup it should have been Tyler. Why would you continue to play Hayes if he's pretty much bad at everything else. Since Hayes is a specialist he should only get playing time on special occasions. I think hansbrough can handle the rest but for some reason Casey didn't see it that way.
    I think chuck really only played in those specialist moments. I remember seeing a lot of Amir Patterson front courts last year. Whatever minutes Jv sat, either Patterson or Amir came in.
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    You should stop trying to get it raptors999 is either trolling or has no clue what he's talking about.
    Yea I'm over it. Pretty much in his eyes if we aren't top 5 we are shit. Yes Casey is a defensive coach but he can only do so much. To expect a team that starts 2 sophomores, has Demar, Vasquez and Hayes getting a good bit a minutes to be a top 5 defensive team is a little much. Also you have to give him credit for the offensive too. Casey is a pretty bad offensive coach and he had up in the top 10. That's big. raptors999 has to be a troll because he is just making no sense.

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    You're starting to annoy me.

    The Warriors were 14th in defense in 2012-13. Bogut missed 50 games and they had no Iguodala.

    The Warriors were 4th in defense in 2013-14. Bogut missed just 15 games and Iguodala was added to the team.

    But yeah I'm sure the jump had NOTHING to do with adding two all-NBA caliber defenders to the starting 5. Give me a break.
    Both Iggy and Bogut were injured for large parts of the season and they were an elite defensive team. They moved from 102.6 in 2012 to 99.9 under Jackson. Defensive coaches impact teams defenses, Casey hasn't really done anything. Toronto was 102.4 in Casey's third season. If Casey can push Toronto under 100 great but I doubt it, it usually doesn't take 4 seasons.

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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    I think chuck really only played in those specialist moments. I remember seeing a lot of Amir Patterson front courts last year. Whatever minutes Jv sat, either Patterson or Amir came in.
    I think when he first got here he only played occasionally but as the season went on he definitely got more and more minutes. The thing is Chuck is so bad that even if he gets only 6-10 mins a game it feels like too much because he can't do anything well. When he is on the court it is constantly 4 on 5 and he makes it very difficult for the guards which then hurts our offense big time. If Chuck is setting screens in the pick and roll the defense can just trap our guards because no one is afraid of leaving Chuck wide open. He constantly misses wide open layups, like it's beyond frustrating to watch. I thought Aaron Gray was bad when it came to missing easy layups but Hayes is much worse.

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Both Iggy and Bogut were injured for large parts of the season and they were an elite defensive team. They moved from 102.6 in 2012 to 99.9 under Jackson. Defensive coaches impact teams defenses, Casey hasn't really done anything. Toronto was 102.4 in Casey's third season. If Casey can push Toronto under 100 great but I doubt it, it usually doesn't take 4 seasons.
    Do we have an anchor like Bogut? Do we have arguably the best wing defender in the league in Iguodala?

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Both Iggy and Bogut were injured for large parts of the season and they were an elite defensive team. They moved from 102.6 in 2012 to 99.9 under Jackson. Defensive coaches impact teams defenses, Casey hasn't really done anything. Toronto was 102.4 in Casey's third season. If Casey can push Toronto under 100 great but I doubt it, it usually doesn't take 4 seasons.
    Okay Jackson did a good job. I just don't understand how that makes Casey shit or means Casey did nothing. Just because Jackson might have done a better job than him doesn't mean Casey is bad or did nothing, it just means Jackson was better. The joke is Jackson is unemployed while Casey is still coaching a good eastern conference team in the NBA.

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    I think when he first got here he only played occasionally but as the season went on he definitely got more and more minutes. The thing is Chuck is so bad that even if he gets only 6-10 mins a game it feels like too much because he can't do anything well. When he is on the court it is constantly 4 on 5 and he makes it very difficult for the guards which then hurts our offense big time. If Chuck is setting screens in the pick and roll the defense can just trap our guards because no one is afraid of leaving Chuck wide open. He constantly misses wide open layups, like it's beyond frustrating to watch. I thought Aaron Gray was bad when it came to missing easy layups but Hayes is much worse.
    Can't argue with you there, I completely agree. And he hits one foot runner from the near the threepoint line pretty efficiently haha
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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    Can't argue with you there, I completely agree. And he hits one foot runner from the near the threepoint line pretty efficiently haha
    LOL that was amazing. But I'm trying to come to terms with Hayes getting about 5-10 minutes a game unless Masai gets another center. Bebe isn't quite ready yet and if Tyler is still on the team he won't get playing time so yea.

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    I thought his name was spelled Dwyane...
    The name's Bond, James Bond.

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    Quote 007 wrote: View Post
    I thought his name was spelled Dwyane...
    Naw, it's actually spelt Dwane. I know it's weird, I think his parents messed up or something, that's the weirdest spelling.
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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Hands plays best as an energy big, short burst and limited. Hayes guarding low-post players is effective. Both Hands and Hayes are specialists. Bebe would be better against PnR offenses and replacing Amir than either.
    Hayes is great as a veteran presence on the floor. During the Nets series, you can see him talking on defense and directing Jonas a lot. And he's good at resisting and holding position against traditional post players.

    The big problem with Hayes is that there are less and less traditional big men in the league. That and he's simply too damn short. There are numerous times I remember seeing him defend a play in the post really well, force a missed shot, but have a rebound just snatched away from him despite being in position to grab it.

    This might sound ludicrous, but all we need is a Rasho-like journeyman, or the version of Hayes that is 4 or 5 inches taller.

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    Quote bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
    Hayes is great as a veteran presence on the floor. During the Nets series, you can see him talking on defense and directing Jonas a lot. And he's good at resisting and holding position against traditional post players.

    The big problem with Hayes is that there are less and less traditional big men in the league. That and he's simply too damn short. There are numerous times I remember seeing him defend a play in the post really well, force a missed shot, but have a rebound just snatched away from him despite being in position to grab it.

    This might sound ludicrous, but all we need is a Rasho-like journeyman, or the version of Hayes that is 4 or 5 inches taller.
    Agreed!

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