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  • Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    you chose....wrong
    Dragan Bender : the next Nikoloz Tskitishvili... with a more pronounceable name.

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    • Did anyone check to see if any of that "top 8" prospects did workout for the teams picking right after us? Bucks, Magic & Jazz

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      • OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
        Running workout tally
        Rankings
        Draft Express/ESPN

        May 19
        32/10 Dejounte Murray (G, 6'5")

        June 1
        16/25 Demetrius Jackson (G, 6'2")
        48/52 Gary Payton II (G, 6'3")
        58/73 Dorian Finney-Smith (F, 6'8")
        UR/UR Jalen Jones (F, 6'7")
        79/75 Kyle Wiltjer (F, 6'10")
        95/UR Stefan Jankovic (F/C, 6'11")

        June 2
        95/UR Stefan Jankovic (2nd workout)
        13/8 Henry Ellenson (F, 6'11")

        June 5
        11/11 Skal Labissiere (F, 7'0")
        20/28 Juan Hernangomez (F, 6'9")
        UR/UR Kyle Collinsworth (PG, 6'7")
        UR/UR Jaleel Cousins (F, 6'10")
        77/? Elgin Cook (F, 6'6")
        UR/UR Shaq Goodwin (F, 6'8")
        UR/UR Ilja Gromovs (C, 6'11")
        UR/UR Anthony Odunsi (G, 6'4")
        UR/UR Torrance Rowe (G 6'1")
        UR/UR Jamari Taylor (F, 6'8")

        June 6
        UR/UR Brondon Austin (G, 6'6")
        UR/152 Winston Shepard (G/F, 6'8")
        49/52 Jake Layman (F, 6'9")
        22/24 Damian Jones (F/C, 7'0")
        33/32 Diamond Stone (C, 6'10")
        35/42 Stephen Zimmerman (F/C, 7'0")
        17/17 Domantas Sabonis (F, 6'10")

        June 8
        78/72 Daniel Hamilton (G, 6'8")
        UR/94 Klye Collinsworth (G, 6'7")
        68/69 Perry Ellis (F, 6'8")
        75/54 James Webb (F, 6'9")
        34/30 Guerschon Yabusele (F/C, 6'8")
        38/36 Chinanu Onuaku (F/C, 6'10")

        June 13
        98/146 Julian Jacobs (G, 6'4")
        UR/149 Rasheed Sulaimon (G, 6'4")
        41/38 Malcolm Brogdon (G, 6'6")
        UR/UR Justin Edwards (G, 6'4")
        30/37 Brice Johnson (F, 6'11")
        UR/92 Jalen Reynolds (F, 6'10")

        June 14
        UR/84 David Walker (G, 6'6")
        53/53 Micheal Gbinije (G, 6'7")
        81/54 Alex Poythress (F, 6'8")
        76/70 Troy Williams (G, 6'7")
        UR/121 Daniel Ochefu (C, 6'11")
        42/46 AJ Hammons (C, 7'0")
        FYI - Thought I'd add Draft Express/Chad Ford's rankings for these workouts as well as the position and height info for the others.
        Last edited by myklk; Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:00 PM.

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        • Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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          • Zubac and Zagorac are pretty good.
            Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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            • MixxAOR wrote: View Post
              Zubac and Zagorac are pretty good.
              Who's is Zagorac ?

              Edit: i looked and found him listed 36 on DX,but i don't recall him coming for Raps workout.
              Last edited by Deino; Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:58 AM.

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              • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post
                We could move up to 6 easily.

                Ross+9 for Asik+6.

                Was looking at their roster to see what else they could give us to even up the deal, then the more I looked at Asik, the more I realized it's not worth it..
                Given the spate of potential second rounders that the Raptors have brought in to work out, It really looks like Masai is looking to trade a pick (most likely the number 9 pick) for some second round options.
                Specifically players like: Chinanu Onuaku, AJ Hammonds, Gary Payton II, Jake Layman, Michael Gbiniji, Stephen Zimmerman, Malcolm Brogdon, (all mid second round picks) and maybe Brice Johnson (late first, early second). Looking at a couple of second round players makes some sense but to bring in 10-12 players for work-outs means the Raps are serious about a second round selection and I believe they fully expect to be picking a player in the second round.


                If that's the case then I would say something like this might be possible
                Ross+9 for to NOP for Asik +6 +39 +40
                New Orleans does it because the Aski contract is terrible but for us he may be a good (albeit expensive) replacement for Scola/Bismack

                Or even better
                Ross + 9 to Houston for Terrance Jones (sign and trade) +37 +43
                Houston does this because they don't have a first round pick and TJ is a restricted free agent. It would have to be done with "prior knowledge" because free agency happens after the draft.

                Alternatively we could keep number 9 and just trade 27 for two second rounders.
                Last edited by myklk; Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:49 AM.

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                • NBA.com updated mock draft by Scott Howard-Cooper


                  Toronto Raptors

                  Jakob Poeltl | Utah | C | 7-0 | 235

                  College Highlights: Jakob Poeltl

                  Poeltl has the chance to put Austria on the NBA map after two seasons on the college fast track from unheralded recruit to possibly the first half of the lottery. Playing for former NBA big man Larry Krystkowiak at Utah, Poeltl has become what one executive described as a poor man's*Pau Gasol, with passing skills, the ability to play inside and a good feel for the game despite a relative lack of experience. He has been working to become a better scorer, but is the kind of worker who will put in the time to get better.



                  27. Toronto Raptors

                  Dejounte Murray | Washington | PG- SG | 6-5 | 170

                  He excels in transition, whether pushing the ball himself or running the wing and staying in attack mode. That is comes through at 170 pounds is especially appealing to front offices that expect him to fill out and get stronger. Poor shooting is the problem. Murray made just 41.6 percent of his attempts overall and 28.8 percent of his threes.
                  @Chr1st1anL

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                  • Deino wrote: View Post
                    Who's is Zagorac ?
                    Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                    • MixxAOR wrote: View Post
                      Thanks for video,looks good.
                      Plays for Mega Leks So he's Luwawu's teammate

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                      • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
                        NBA.com updated mock draft by Scott Howard-Cooper


                        Toronto Raptors

                        Jakob Poeltl | Utah | C | 7-0 | 235

                        College Highlights: Jakob Poeltl

                        Poeltl has the chance to put Austria on the NBA map after two seasons on the college fast track from unheralded recruit to possibly the first half of the lottery. Playing for former NBA big man Larry Krystkowiak at Utah, Poeltl has become what one executive described as a poor man's*Pau Gasol, with passing skills, the ability to play inside and a good feel for the game despite a relative lack of experience. He has been working to become a better scorer, but is the kind of worker who will put in the time to get better.



                        27. Toronto Raptors

                        Dejounte Murray | Washington | PG- SG | 6-5 | 170

                        He excels in transition, whether pushing the ball himself or running the wing and staying in attack mode. That is comes through at 170 pounds is especially appealing to front offices that expect him to fill out and get stronger. Poor shooting is the problem. Murray made just 41.6 percent of his attempts overall and 28.8 percent of his threes.
                        Man this is gonna be a good draft to watch play out. Unpredictable as hell. Murray could be a top 10 pick or a borderline second rounder for crying out loud. Cannot wait.

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                        • Chad Ford interview
                          Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                          • ^ Thanks for posting.. i'm listening to the RR one right now.

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                            • Miekenstien wrote: View Post
                              Notorious low baller? Rumour was 4 firsts for justise last year. Offer Masai four future firsts for #9 and you get a deal.

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                              Yeah...he low balls..then at one minute to midnight when no one calls back he panics....so you see the 4 picks for Winslow offers...but even then it was 4 picks over two years none being higher than 15....he wants something for nothing..which is why I believe he has made only two deals...

                              One with a teammate who did him a favour and the other with the much maligned Billy's king....

                              Maybe he can get something done in Cleveland..but he is going to have to offer something material as Cleveland isn't up against it money wise
                              Last edited by Demographic Shift; Wed Jun 15, 2016, 10:04 AM.
                              There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
                              - TGO

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                              • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
                                Yeah...he low balls..then at one minute to midnight when no one calls back and he panics....the 4 picks for Winslow..but even then it was 4 picks over two years none being higher than 15....he wants something for nothing..which is why he has two deals...
                                One with a teammate who did him a favour and the other with the much maligned Billy's king....
                                Ha yeah...It will be interesting to see if and when the shine comes off of Boston. Right now it's all blinding "potential" with all his assets. And though I can see why Ainge gets a little more slack because he's brought a team of superstars together before (even though Pierce was already there), those type of moves are very rare.
                                Two beer away from being two beers away.

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