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A.I wrote: View PostI don't mind Patterson driving a little and popping a mid range or posting up. Carroll however, should not be driving into the paint.
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golden wrote: View PostOne thing I worry about with Carroll is if he's a rhythm shooter who needs a more structured Spurs/Hawks type of ball movement system where it's more predictable when and where his shots are coming from. He has shown little to no ability to create or shoot off the dribble, which happens frequently in the Raps system where the only thing predictable is that Lowry or DD will try to create offense. But for the other players it's somewhat unpredictable where/when/how they will be getting their open looks and they have to become experts at reading & reacting off Lowry and DD. That unpredictability is one of the strengths of the Raps system, but reacting to that might not be Carroll's strength. The guy bounced around quite a bit before finding success in Altanta - maybe there's a reason for that.
DanH wrote: View PostHe's shooting 33% from three on 4 attempts a game. He's a little cool but he'll be fine - he's been a roughly 40% shooter from distance for three straight years.
Question is, how is his health and mobility going to play into his overall game. Dude is shooting 25% within 10 ft of the rim, good for 353 out of 373 players. Small sample size, but might support the eye test.
Hopefully he's just shaking off the rust. At 100% he'd be a very useful piece for us. Even at 80-90%. But I don't know where he legitimately is right now. If this persists through another month I'd be worried.
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Scraptor wrote: View PostThis was my concern too, but he did hit 39% from 3 for 26 games last year, so I think we can make it work.
Sort of.... he had one season of 70 games at 39.5%. 26 games last year at 39%. And now he's at 26.9% through six games. So 102 games at 38.6%. Which is still a good solid sample size.
Question is, how is his health and mobility going to play into his overall game. Dude is shooting 25% within 10 ft of the rim, good for 353 out of 373 players. Small sample size, but might support the eye test.
Hopefully he's just shaking off the rust. At 100% he'd be a very useful piece for us. Even at 80-90%. But I don't know where he legitimately is right now. If this persists through another month I'd be worried.
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Scraptor wrote: View PostThis was my concern too, but he did hit 39% from 3 for 26 games last year, so I think we can make it work.
Sort of.... he had one season of 70 games at 39.5%. 26 games last year at 39%. And now he's at 26.9% through six games. So 102 games at 38.6%. Which is still a good solid sample size.
Question is, how is his health and mobility going to play into his overall game. Dude is shooting 25% within 10 ft of the rim, good for 353 out of 373 players. Small sample size, but might support the eye test.
Hopefully he's just shaking off the rust. At 100% he'd be a very useful piece for us. Even at 80-90%. But I don't know where he legitimately is right now. If this persists through another month I'd be worried.
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S.R. wrote: View PostIt's not even the shots tho, Carroll needs to be playing well above average defence. Knocking down threes to chip in a few points and keep the D honest is almost gravy.
I wonder how much Carroll's JYD/Cuck Hustle impact had a lot more to do with Atlanta's finesse roster. He doesn't stand out in that regard at all on this Raptors team.-"You can’t run from me. I mean, my heart don’t bleed Kool-Aid."
-"“I ain’t no diva! I don’t have no blond hair, red hair. I’m Reggie Evans.”
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Raptorsss wrote: View PostWhen I say hustle player, I am mostly referring to his pre-Atlanta days where he wasn't really considered a part of any offense really. He started to show flashes of being more than just a role player in Utah, and his offensive game bloomed in Atlanta. Strong 3-D wing players, aren't all that common in the NBA, so he isn't easily replaced. However, I was expecting him to be a step above PP at the very least.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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KeonClark wrote: View PostHe's not bad at 3s, his D has been suspect as fuck. Every time he's replaced by Ross or Powell we go on a run..
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DanH wrote: View PostTo be fair, though, most often when he's replaced by Ross or Powell, Siakam is replaced by Patterson. And THAT's the real difference.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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KeonClark wrote: View PostHe's not bad at 3s, his D has been suspect as fuck. Every time he's replaced by Ross or Powell we go on a run..DanH wrote: View PostTo be fair, though, most often when he's replaced by Ross or Powell, Siakam is replaced by Patterson. And THAT's the real difference.-"You can’t run from me. I mean, my heart don’t bleed Kool-Aid."
-"“I ain’t no diva! I don’t have no blond hair, red hair. I’m Reggie Evans.”
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Raptorsss wrote: View PostSecond, that it's better to think of Carroll as a 4 on defense like Patterson and not a 3.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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Carroll beside Siakam: -2.3 on-court net RTG
Carroll not beside Siakam: +16.8 on-court net RTG
Roughly 60% of his minutes spent beside Siakam. Roughly 40% not.
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Apollo wrote: View PostHe's looking like a player whole got paid and now is in coasting mode.
He doesn't play these games with the same intensity as Powell right now. Powell's defence on Batum was better than anything I've seen from Carroll this season.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.
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