And when I say "clamping down" I do not mean it in its harshest sense but this stuff will only increase incrementally to be more and more. One day you'll look back and see where you were now and compare that to where you are and you'll conclude that your quality of living has dropped and it'll be because this stuff kills small business and hurts medium business. That's where I see it going anyway.
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I hope my future grandchildren are able to live in a stable world where they have better opportunities than me. I don't know if what we're doing and where we're heading with the man made climate change movement will bring that to fruition. If its real and dire, I think the general plan sucks. If its real but minor, I think the general plan sucks.
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Apollo wrote: View PostWell isn't that the direction we're heading in? When do regulations and taxes not snowball?
Why assume that anything new is going to lead to catastrophe?
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Apollo wrote: View PostAnd when I say "clamping down" I do not mean it in its harshest sense but this stuff will only increase incrementally to be more and more. One day you'll look back and see where you were now and compare that to where you are and you'll conclude that your quality of living has dropped and it'll be because this stuff kills small business and hurts medium business. That's where I see it going anyway.
Has there been any point in human history where advancements in technology have led to universal declines in quality of life?
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Nilanka wrote: View PostDo you think smoking regulations have snowballed? Driving laws? I work in health regulation. Would you say people are living longer/healthier lives than generations ago?
Why assume that anything new is going to lead to catastrophe?
There is opportunity here to stimulate growth in the right avenues, I just don't think you'll see it happen in a way that significantly helps the most important players in the economy: small-medium sized business.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostThis is just nothing more than your imagination, though.
Has there been any point in human history where advancements in technology have led to universal declines in quality of life?
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Clearly some people in this thread are much more knowledgeable than others on the topic. I am blown away that the debate lasted so long. Its amazing the lengths people will go to convince themselves of something simply because the truth inconveniences them. Its also amazing to watch people have such a strong stance on something without bothering to take the time to do a little research. Which is why I refuse to talk about any important social issue with anyone when I visit the US.
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Apollo wrote: View PostAnd when I say "clamping down" I do not mean it in its harshest sense but this stuff will only increase incrementally to be more and more. One day you'll look back and see where you were now and compare that to where you are and you'll conclude that your quality of living has dropped and it'll be because this stuff kills small business and hurts medium business. That's where I see it going anyway.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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Apollo wrote: View PostAnd when I say "clamping down" I do not mean it in its harshest sense but this stuff will only increase incrementally to be more and more. One day you'll look back and see where you were now and compare that to where you are and you'll conclude that your quality of living has dropped and it'll be because this stuff kills small business and hurts medium business. That's where I see it going anyway.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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Apollo wrote: View PostOverall quality of living has been dropping for quite some time. It's not the tech advancements that are to blame and I'm not in here knocking green tech or linking green tech to economic decline. I mean robotics is a game changer that will go against the trend but that topic is for a different place and time.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostSlavery was good for the Southern US economy back in the day. There were lots of rationalizations even among "good Christians". And yeah, the quality of living for Southern whites dropped after abolition.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostSlavery was good for the Southern US economy back in the day. There were lots of rationalizations even among "good Christians". And yeah, the quality of living for Southern whites dropped after abolition.
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Apollo wrote: View PostWell you can start by looking at the levels of debt in Canada.
What about the cumulative effects of increased life expectancy, increased literacy, decreased infant mortality, decreased crime rates, and decreased poverty, etc.?
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As fascinating as this discussion is, just want to point out again that it is irrelevant to the question posed in the thread, and the confusing of this sort of discussion with the debate over the science is exactly the problem with the discourse surrounding climate change.
If all involved could accept that there is a problem, and that we are definitely contributing in a major way to it, and agree that the science supports those conclusions (as the scientific community has), then we could move more practically to the discussion of how to deal with it. The concerns being discussed in the thread now bleeding back into the discussion around the science, or the denial of the science so as not to have to deal with these discussions, is a big problem.
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