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Primer wrote: View PostRoss would be like a $1 bill and DMC a $100 bill. Ross is totally irrelevant to any possible DMC trade, he'd just be filler. Not to mention DanH clarified he can be traded right now, so the fact he's signed long term makes him a more desirable asset if a team actually wanted him.
Just realized that DMC and JV are pretty being paid the same thing. If you can get DMC on that contract who ever you trade to get him would be a steal.@Chr1st1anL
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Here's how it goes down
In December when FA are tradable, 3 team trade
Toronto/Miami/Sacramento
Toronto in: cousins, belineli, Richardson 22 mil
Miami in: Carroll, collisions, nogueria
20.5 mil
Sacramento in: deng(exp), Anderson(exp), Winslow, Ross,
21.2 according to trade machine(which works), but should be higher because of Ross poison pill
2016 Knicks, 2017 raptors or clippers(Right to swap)
We get a star player, Miami gets what they wanted in deng and probably sees it as a contending move, Sacramento can tank, get a good prospect in Winslow, potential high pick, and talk those dummy's into Ross having upside. Fair?
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draps wrote: View PostHere's how it goes down
In December when FA are tradable, 3 team trade
Toronto/Miami/Sacramento
Toronto in: cousins, belineli, Richardson 22 mil
Miami in: Carroll, collisions, nogueria
20.5 mil
Sacramento in: deng(exp), Anderson(exp), Winslow, Ross,
21.2 according to trade machine(which works), but should be higher because of Ross poison pill
2016 Knicks, 2017 raptors or clippers(Right to swap)
We get a star player, Miami gets what they wanted in deng and probably sees it as a contending move, Sacramento can tank, get a good prospect in Winslow, potential high pick, and talk those dummy's into Ross having upside. Fair?
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A.I wrote: View PostAnd our perimeter defense turns to crap. Also with DD in the mix, Cousins or even JV will never be able to post up as much they want to. DD just isn't a good shooter.
Build around jv, cousins bully ball, or try and attract a big 3.
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I'd think DD would be involved in any Cousins deal that doesn't include JV. Especially if there is a third team involved - that third team needs to be a hopeful contender like Miami and I'd expect them to be more interested in star power than role players.
That said, I can't imagine a much better pitch for a guy like Durant in free agency than to come play beside a couple of twin towers protecting the paint and Kyle Lowry.
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DanH wrote: View PostThat said, I can't imagine a much better pitch for a guy like Durant in free agency than to come play beside a couple of twin towers protecting the paint and Kyle Lowry.
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DanH wrote: View PostI'd think DD would be involved in any Cousins deal that doesn't include JV. Especially if there is a third team involved - that third team needs to be a hopeful contender like Miami and I'd expect them to be more interested in star power than role players.
That said, I can't imagine a much better pitch for a guy like Durant in free agency than to come play beside a couple of twin towers protecting the paint and Kyle Lowry.
Kyle Lowry
Demarre Carroll
Kevin Durant
Demarcus Cousins
Jonas Valanciunas
Given the proper coach, that lineup is championship contender level though.Last edited by A.I; Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:08 AM.
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I'm a big fan of Cousins' play but not a fan of the player himself.
With that said, a front court with him and JV would be insanely good (as, like AH, it appears that Cousins prefers the 4 to the 5). I think if you could do it for DD+PP+filler, it'd be worth a shot as I do think that it would definitely make a pitch to someone like Durant more appealing. Plus I also like the idea of running a KL, TR, DCa, DCo, JV starting line up this season in the meanwhile."My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
"If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy
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I think two things will happen.
1. SAC will trade Cousins instead of firing Karl, because at this point they're already on the hook for one ex-coach's salary (Malone) and they don't want be on the hook for a second's salary as well. Cousins is a fantastic player, but Kevin Love was a great player in Minnesota and at a certain point you have to admit that it's not going to happen with this guy.
2. If he goes anywhere, Boogie's going to Boston. I'm not Bill Simmons; it just makes sense. Boston can offer multiple draft picks, including the near-priceless Nets pick this year (which is almost certainly going to end up top three) and whatever players they trade to make up salary will be solid replacements. I mean, the easiest answer for the trade is David Lee plus picks, and David Lee is both a good player who can potentially be moved later for more value before the deadline AND he's expiring salary to boot. Or maybe they do a bunch of young players - say Olynyk, Sullinger and Thomas.
There's just no way we can beat Boston's potential offer for Boogie. Ainge has been stockpiling resources for years precisely for this kind of scenario and nearly snagged Kevin Love with it last year - and the Nets pick is worth much, much more now.
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