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Snooch wrote: View PostDemar to Boston
Bradley, Olynik, A pick from Boston and Toronto Pick to Atlanta
Patterson to Memphis
Horford and Courtney Lee to Toronto
Lowry/Joseph/Wright
Lee/Ross/Powell
Carroll/JJ/Bruno
Horford/Scola/Bennett
JV/Biz/Bebe
That is a great team, lockdown defense, floor spacing, post up game.
Come up with a realistic trade that improves the Raps and doesn't involve dealing DeMar. Just a challenge, I want to see if you can do it.
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Snooch wrote: View PostI shouldnt have has to post all that.
It should have been obvious on many levels that biz starting is a bad idea on its own.
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Guess what bro .. It's pretty OBVIOUS to the entire NBA world ( including the coaches that chose DD for the allstar game ) That Demar is a legit allstar .. And is NOT getting traded !!! Never, not happening !!!!
But u keep posting your idiotic Demar trades .. Lol .. Lol
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Thank you, Masai!
Among teams HOU has contacted re Dwight, per league sources: Toronto. Raps have shown no interest. @WojVerticalNBA reported Dwight feelers
— Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) February 11, 2016
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Shantz wrote: View PostThank you, Masai!
Among teams HOU has contacted re Dwight, per league sources: Toronto. Raps have shown no interest. @WojVerticalNBA reported Dwight feelers
— Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) February 11, 2016
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Shantz wrote: View PostThank you, Masai!
Among teams HOU has contacted re Dwight, per league sources: Toronto. Raps have shown no interest. @WojVerticalNBA reported Dwight feelers
— Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) February 11, 2016
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JWash wrote: View Post1.) Trading Valanciunas unless a superstar is coming back is moronic.
2.) Trading DeRozan unless a superstar is coming back is moronic.
3.) No, Al Horford is not a superstar.
End of discussion.
The issue is their contracts and fit. That's why you keep DD/JV in a Horford scenario, not because of talent level.
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JWash wrote: View Post1.) Trading Valanciunas unless a superstar is coming back is moronic.
2.) Trading DeRozan unless a superstar is coming back is moronic.
3.) No, Al Horford is not a superstar.
End of discussion.
The guys that think their opinion is the be all n end all is funny to me on here ... I suggested a trade that I THOUGHT was a good return .. I still believe that ! But .. I don't pretend that I'm right n everyone else is wrong !
Get off your horse dude ... It's your opinion ! It's not fact !
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Scraptor wrote: View PostThis logic is totally flawed. Trading DD or JV for Horford would be fine on a talent basis. Horford's 18th in the league in win shares, just behind DeMar.
The issue is their contracts and fit. That's why you keep DD/JV in a Horford scenario, not because of talent level.
JWash didn't say anything about talent/contract/fit. All three being important was pretty obviously implicit, and the fact that he doesn't consider Horford a superstar is an arguable but valid opinion.
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Scraptor wrote: View PostThis logic is totally flawed. Trading DD or JV for Horford would be fine on a talent basis. Horford's 18th in the league in win shares, just behind DeMar.
The issue is their contracts and fit. That's why you keep DD/JV in a Horford scenario, not because of talent level.
Even then, if Horford was signed long term, it would be a decent move trading JV straight up for him. But big name players on long deals cost more than JV. They cost JV plus prospects plus the Knicks pick, etc. Is the upgrade worth it there considering the hole on the team is at PF, not C?
We're at a stage in our team building where it is much more efficient (and important) to upgrade our areas of weakness than to further upgrade our areas of strength.
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This thread has become pretty trash with the exception of a couple quality posters trying to keep things sane. Everybody else is just throwing shit at the wall trying to trade players they're biased against.
Let me just say one last time Horford for jv is awful. At best it takes us from losing to Cleveland in 5 to losing in Cleveland in 7, handcuffs us into the tax already when we're not ready, and jv will be better than Horford in 2 years. And much cheaper still.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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Raps07 wrote: View PostLol lol
The guys that think their opinion is the be all n end all is funny to me on here ... I suggested a trade that I THOUGHT was a good return .. I still believe that ! But .. I don't pretend that I'm right n everyone else is wrong !
Get off your horse dude ... It's your opinion ! It's not fact !
This faction crap is just getting annoying. You see all the DeRozan supporters wanting to run JV out of town and the opposite going the other way. Here's an idea. Both guys are fucking good, their ages aren't so far apart that they can't play together for the next 4-5 years, you don't break that up unless it's for one of the best 10-15 players in the game (someone who's on par with or better than Lowry and there are not many of those guys around).
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DanH wrote: View PostIt's a little over the top, true. But the scenarios where trading JV makes sense are limited to a) a better player, signed long term (which seems unlikely), b) a true superstar, whether signed long term or not (but would still be risky if not), or c) some tremendous return of young assets and/or very high draft picks.
Even then, if Horford was signed long term, it would be a decent move trading JV straight up for him. But big name players on long deals cost more than JV. They cost JV plus prospects plus the Knicks pick, etc. Is the upgrade worth it there considering the hole on the team is at PF, not C?
We're at a stage in our team building where it is much more efficient (and important) to upgrade our areas of weakness than to further upgrade our areas of strength.
Just saying ..stats with one player don't necessarily stay the same , when better players are brought in
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