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Zach lowe did a full on raptors column today- how do they get from "good" to "great"
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostThe guy is 30 years old. Pretty sure he has a lot left in the tank
This is one of those moves that I think 2-3 years down the line you look back and say "wtf were we thinking" kind of like trading Roy Hibbert for JO (who was also one of the best 2 way centers in the league at one point) except worse because JV is way better than Hibbert.
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JWash wrote: View PostHe's 31 and showing clear signs of regression so far this season. Also not only does he log NBA mileage, but also major FIBA mileage in the offseason with the Spanish national team.
This is one of those moves that I think 2-3 years down the line you look back and say "wtf were we thinking" kind of like trading Roy Hibbert for JO (who was also one of the best 2 way centers in the league at one point) except worse because JV is way better than Hibbert.@Chr1st1anL
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Went through the article and had a few thoughts
Lowe wrote:The defense hasn't been as air tight as Casey would like, especially when Jonas Valanciunas is on the floor, but the Raptors feel more like a solidly built house.
Lowe wrote:"How do you get from good in the NBA to great?" Ujiri asked. "That is really hard."
Lowe wrote:Ross and Carroll certainly aren't ready to absorb DeRozan's possessions in the event Toronto lets him walk.
But you know who might be? Valanciunas. The big fella goes through entire halves when he doesn't get a single back-to-the-basket touch; he's shooting less via post-ups this season than last season, even though Casey trusts him now in crunch time. He has also taken just 21 shots directly out of the pick-and-roll, about one per game -- an unfathomably low number for a high-volume screen-setter.
Lowe wrote:Those guards also love to "snake" the pick-and-roll -- hoops lingo for swerving back in the direction of a pick -- and right into Valanciunas' path:
Lowe wrote:That sounds crazy, but an informal poll of a dozen front-office executives on Bazemore's next average salary drew answers ranging from the mid-level exception, to $12 million, to "who the hell even knows?"
*Top Tier Role player are the like of Danny Green, contract year Ariza...etc
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View Postif JV become as good as Gasol is/was last year. Than it looks like a bad deal but, I'm pretty sure Gasol is JV's ceiling. Pau Gasol is 35 and is still highly effective. His having a slow first half off the season. I'm going to give the guy who was just named to the All-NBA 1st team 8 months ago the benefit of the doubt.
And who cares about brothers? You think anyone is using blake Griffin as a measuring stick for Taylor's career prospects?
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostPau Gasol has never spent most of his NBA career pudgy.
And who cares about brothers? You think anyone is using blake Griffin as a measuring stick for Taylor's career prospects?@Chr1st1anL
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostI used Pau cause they both have played bigs minutes in the NBA/Fiba. They also play the same low to the ground game.
And as good as Marc is, he is Harvey to Pau's Horace.
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostI think you used him because you're talking out your bottom and are behind any notion, regardless of how illogical, that involves trading or benching JV.
And as good as Marc is, he is Harvey to Pau's Horace.@Chr1st1anL
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostI used Pau cause they both have played bigs minutes in the NBA/Fiba. They also play the same low to the ground game.
You realize Pau actually has dropped off significantly since he was about 30 right? He used to be like a 120 oRTG guy in L.A. and even with the Grizzlies. He's still very good but nowhere near that caliber of player anymore.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostAren't you the one whose always talking about being a treadmill team. Well if raptors don't make a trade that's what they are. By Masai committing to the backcourt by choosing to resign DD to the Max or close to it. Leaves us with little cap room. The only way we can get better is by trade and JV is our best assets. There is a reason why JV and Ross' extension add up to around max money.
To trade for a max player anyway you don't need to send back 25M you need to send back 20M. So JV+Ross adding up to ~25M doesn't really mean a thing. Also they don't actually add up to 25M until the offseason, not now.
Carroll and Lowry also add up to ~25M are they out the door?
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JWash wrote: View PostYou realize Pau actually has dropped off significantly since he was about 30 right? He used to be like a 120 oRTG guy in L.A. and even with the Grizzlies. He's still very good but nowhere near that caliber of player anymore.
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