Could this Raptor team beat the Vince Carter's Second Round team ?

[Hotshot]

On the other hand, you forgot about coaching Lenny Willkins is far better than Casey.

I don't think so.

[slaw]

Because someone created a thread asking who wins between these two teams. We have no choice but to compare.

Kyle takes Alvin. Vince takes DeMar. New JYD takes Old JYD. Oakley goes on a rampage and we're left with JV vs. Davis which would be influenced greatly by Oak and Pat. The benches are tough to figure out because it would come down to adjustments. We know how good Casey is at that... I will say that Lenny was far to passive and Dwane is not.

Oakley. God. Every game with the behind the back pass into the third row, the missed layups and the awful, awful midrange jump shots. The most overrated player in the history of the organization. How anyone who watched that team and had to suffer through his nonsense....... ugh. The only rampage he ever went on was when he attacked Tyrone Hill for not paying him a bet...

[RaptorsVictim]

I don't think so.

So, what do you think ?

[CalgaryRapsFan]

For me, it comes down to two factors, both of which favor the 00-01 squad:

1. Alvin, Childs, Mo-P and JYD would be able to frustrate and shut down DeRozan and Lowry, forcing the current team to rely on role players to succeed; we've seen how horrendous this team can be when relying offensively on Casey's plan-panic.

2. The current team would not be able to stop prime Vinsanity. If they played today, given the rule changes, superstar calls, etc... VC would have the current team in foul trouble in no time. Don't forget, VC was also a solid playmaker, able to create easy buckets for his teammates off his penetration. With Davis (inside drop-offs) and outside shooters (Curry, Mo-P, Alvin, Childs), VC would carve the current team to shreds.

[Abbas]

For me, it comes down to two factors, both of which favor the 00-01 squad:

1. Alvin, Childs, Mo-P and JYD would be able to frustrate and shut down DeRozan and Lowry, forcing the current team to rely on role players to succeed; we've seen how horrendous this team can be when relying offensively on Casey's plan-panic.

2. The current team would not be able to stop prime Vinsanity. If they played today, given the rule changes, superstar calls, etc... VC would have the current team in foul trouble in no time. Don't forget, VC was also a solid playmaker, able to create easy buckets for his teammates off his penetration. With Davis (inside drop-offs) and outside shooters (Curry, Mo-P, Alvin, Childs), VC would carve the current team to shreds.

It would be like the Pacers series but with Carroll even healthier

2015/16 Raps in 6 at worst 7

[Mess]

Oakley VS Scola

That's the matchup I want to see.

[S.R.]

Oakley VS Scola

That's the matchup I want to see.

I saw somewhere that Scola can bicep curl more than any Raptor in franchise history.

#BuenosAiresProveEm

[Hotshot]

2. The current team would not be able to stop prime Vinsanity. If they played today, given the rule changes, superstar calls, etc... VC would have the current team in foul trouble in no time. Don't forget, VC was also a solid playmaker, able to create easy buckets for his teammates off his penetration. With Davis (inside drop-offs) and outside shooters (Curry, Mo-P, Alvin, Childs), VC would carve the current team to shreds.

So pretty much everything Paul George did to the Raptors.

[MixxAOR]

that VC team lost to Allen Iverson and Sixers though. They literally couldn't lock down one guy.

[The Great One]

that VC team lost to Allen Iverson and Sixers though. They literally couldn't lock down one guy.

Lol. We're talking about Allen Iverson here.

[ebrian]

It would be like the Pacers series but with Carroll even healthier

2015/16 Raps in 6 at worst 7

The comparison with the Pacers makes it even less likely that today's Raptors would stand a chance. That Raptors team was even less consistent than the Raptors we've seen against the Heat. Both Lowry and DeRozan were creating records in shooting futility. The Pacers stretched the Raptors to 7 games with Paul George and a bunch of nobodies! You'd have to be kidding yourself if you think that replacing Ian Mahinmi and Myles Turner with Charles Oakley and Antonio Davis, makes the Raptors beat the Pacers faster.. that's sheer madness.

Plus the 2016 home crowd of the new Raptors would be too busy to cheer for their team because they'd be too busy taking Polaroids of Vince Carter dunks and mailing them out to their friends!!

[ebrian]

that VC team lost to Allen Iverson and Sixers though. They literally couldn't lock down one guy.

Allen Iverson was that year's MVP. How many votes did Paul George or Dwyane Wade get this year?

AI shot 38.9% during the playoffs that year, but only 36% against the Raptors.

[MixxAOR]

Allen Iverson was that year's MVP. How many votes did Paul George get this year?

Allen Iverson was inefficient chucker lool

[ebrian]

Allen Iverson was inefficient chucker lool

Probably not the best idea mentioning "inefficient chucker" in this conversation.

[S.R.]

The comparison with the Pacers makes it even less likely that today's Raptors would stand a chance. That Raptors team was even less consistent than the Raptors we've seen against the Heat. Both Lowry and DeRozan were creating records in shooting futility. The Pacers stretched the Raptors to 7 games with Paul George and a bunch of nobodies! You'd have to be kidding yourself if you think that replacing Ian Mahinmi and Myles Turner with Charles Oakley and Antonio Davis, makes the Raptors beat the Pacers faster.. that's sheer madness.

Plus the 2016 home crowd of the new Raptors would be too busy to cheer for their team because they'd be too busy taking Polaroids of Vince Carter dunks and mailing them out to their friends!!

Allen Iverson was that year's MVP. How many votes did Paul George or Dwyane Wade get this year?

AI shot 38.9% during the playoffs that year, but only 36% against the Raptors.

That's the funny thing - volume scorers shooting in the 30's wouldn't look nearly as bad then as it does now.