Everything Jared Sullinger

[slaw]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JLew1050/...01528672321536

Still a month away. Not that I expect anything out of him. In fact I expect he's going to hurt more than he's going to help.

How does adding an intelligent, high basketball IQ, veteran, whose best skill is one the team's biggest weaknesses at the moment, hurt more than help?

[DanH]

How does adding an intelligent, high basketball IQ, veteran, whose best skill is one the team's biggest weaknesses at the moment, hurt more than help?

There's a decent argument to be made that he'll fit poorly in the starting lineup.

But given that we have a giant pile of evidence that Siakam absolutely does not fit with the starting lineup (yet), there's still no reason to believe Sullinger would be a downgrade.

[KeonClark]

How does adding an intelligent, high basketball IQ, veteran, whose best skill is one the team's biggest weaknesses at the moment, hurt more than help?

I can see the argument that he's gonna take usage from kyle demar, and the 2nd tier of carroll ross and jv. Obv we have the most efficient offense in history at the moment, sullinger was never that efficient not to mention he'll be rusty, so force feeding him as a 3rd or 4th option on the court isnt a good idea. Siakam needs 0 touches, just runs the floor. We shall see what sullinger expects out of himself

[Chr1s1anL]

Sully will definitely start when he gets back. He will also help a lot once he gets up to game speed.

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[slaw]

I can see the argument that he's gonna take usage from kyle demar, and the 2nd tier of carroll ross and jv. Obv we have the most efficient offense in history at the moment, sullinger was never that efficient not to mention he'll be rusty, so force feeding him as a 3rd or 4th option on the court isnt a good idea. Siakam needs 0 touches, just runs the floor. We shall see what sullinger expects out of himself

Seems like a reach that he's going to negatively impact usage by the best players on the team. Can you force feed a 4th or 5th option?

[Chr1s1anL]

Sully is a great screener, rebounder and passer. Those three skills should help this team.

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[iblastoff]

I expect Sully to surprise people with his 3-ball just like Scola did last year. I know the Raptors coaching staff was pushing him to take more in preseason.

no thanks. sullinger is supposed to be an offensive rebounding specialist. i do not want him to be sitting at the 3 point line.

[DanH]

no thanks. sullinger is supposed to be an offensive rebounding specialist. i do not want him to be sitting at the 3 point line.

Nah, JV is an offensive rebounding specialist. Sully grabs like 30% fewer offensive boards than JV. Sure, he should still crash the glass when he's close enough (and if he's spotting in the corner, as he should be, he can be a threat on weakside boards), but all signs suggest he can hit the corner three at a rate where it really does make sense to have him there a lot of the time.

[iblastoff]

Nah, JV is an offensive rebounding specialist. Sully grabs like 30% fewer offensive boards than JV. Sure, he should still crash the glass when he's close enough (and if he's spotting in the corner, as he should be, he can be a threat on weakside boards), but all signs suggest he can hit the corner three at a rate where it really does make sense to have him there a lot of the time.

i would say DD is someone who's not known for 3s but is serviceable in the corners. what signs are showing sullinger as an option from there?

last year he took a total of 2 FG attempts from the corners. the guy has been taking less and less 3 pointers over the years because hes terrible at them.

his 2013-2014 season was where he took the most 3 point shots from the corner and he shot 6/21 for a lovely 28.5%. if i were the opposing team i would not give a shit if sullinger was planted out there and play 5 on 4.

even sullinger himself seems to say hes given up on them

http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/1/14...e-3-point-shot

[A.I]

i would say DD is someone who's not known for 3s but is serviceable in the corners. what signs are showing sullinger as an option from there?

last year he took a total of 2 FG attempts from the corners. the guy has been taking less and less 3 pointers over the years because hes terrible at them.

his 2013-2014 season was where he took the most 3 point shots from the corner and he shot 6/21 for a lovely 28.5%. if i were the opposing team i would not give a shit if sullinger was planted out there and play 5 on 4.

even sullinger himself seems to say hes given up on them

http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/1/14...e-3-point-shot

Scola went from making 5/20 3 pointers in his last season with the Pacers to making 65 of them with the Raptors and at 40% 3FG. Wouldn't surprise me if Sullinger developed some sort of a 3 point shot.

[iblastoff]

Scola went from making 5/20 3 pointers in his last season with the Pacers to making 65 of them with the Raptors and at 40% 3FG. Wouldn't surprise me if Sullinger developed some sort of a 3 point shot.

this argument itself isn't sound ("if one player does this, why cant another do it too?"), but if we were to go along with it anyway:

scola barely EVER shot 3's before coming to toronto.

sullinger has already been shooting them as often as patrick patterson does for the past couple of seasons. unlike scola, sullinger has never improved from deep.

a lot of people were calling ross and ppat absolute garbage when they were in their 3 point slumps whenever they'd be shooting below 30% before they'd eventually shoot their way out of it. sullinger has NEVER shot over 30% from deep in any season.

sure, its entirely POSSIBLE that sullinger could get better, but so far, the evidence says otherwise.

[DanH]

this argument itself isn't sound ("if one player does this, why cant another do it too?"), but if we were to go along with it anyway:

scola barely EVER shot 3's before coming to toronto.

sullinger has already been shooting them as often as patrick patterson does for the past couple of seasons. unlike scola, sullinger has never improved from deep.

a lot of people were calling ross and ppat absolute garbage when they were in their 3 point slumps whenever they'd be shooting below 30% before they'd eventually shoot their way out of it. sullinger has NEVER shot over 30% from deep in any season.

sure, its entirely POSSIBLE that sullinger could get better, but so far, the evidence says otherwise.

Sullinger has shot exclusively from above the break, which is beyond his range.

On two point shots from the equivalent distance that a corner three is, Sullinger has been a 40-50% shooter on solid volume throughout the past couple seasons.

[Mapko]

[QUOTE=Chr1s1anL;700019]I would say that Sully is poor man's Al Horford. A lot of the same skills. Horford just does most of the skills better. Except rebounding of course.
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At 4x the salary.

[Axel]

[QUOTE=Mapko;704087]

I would say that Sully is poor man's Al Horford. A lot of the same skills. Horford just does most of the skills better. Except rebounding of course.
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At 4x the salary.

Horford is a much better defender than Sully.

[Chr1s1anL]

Sully has been cleared to shoot and dribble.

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