Everything Trade Chatter

[JamesNaismith]

Masai has an eye for talent. It was pretty obvious who the better talent was. Also Ross' motor was question around the draft and for his whole career.

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Or the much bigger problem with that arguement...

The fact that Masai was just NOW looking to trade "high character" JV for more the expensive (so why pay more as well?) supposedly "low character" Drummond.

[Chr1s1anL]

A couple points about the Drummond/JV kerfuffle:

1. Masai's offices never leak. He's famous for keeping it tight, and for warning opposing GMs that if they leak any discussions, the trade is off. So the leak re: Drummond/JV almost certainly came from either Detroit or possibly one of the agents of the players being discussed. Certainly the idea of a Drummond trade for JV straight up - rather than Detroit throwing in extra assets - is one that favors Detroit, because most of the league considers JV the better player, so it could be a move to push Drummond's price up for an eventual buyer.

2. It is certainly possible that Masai talked with Detroit about Drummond for JV, but the question then becomes: was this simply a straight-up swap? That seems doubtful, because Drummond is the lesser player. Maybe Masai's offer was JV and Sully for Drummond, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a first-rounder. I mean, come on: we're talking about Masai Ujiri here. He does not lose trades, and JV for Drummond is a losing trade.

Only RR thinks JV is the better player. If the trade happened the media would say that Drummond was the best player in the trade.

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[JamesNaismith]

@ChrisBHaynes

Charlotte aggressively pursuing Los Angeles guard Lou Williams, league sources tell ESPN. As @ESPNSteinLine notes, most likely to be dealt.
5:35 PM - 21 Feb 2017

MJ wants to battle Vivek for WOAT owner.

[KHD]

Only RR thinks JV is the better player. If the trade happened the media would say that Drummond was the best player in the trade.

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sure they would. the media panders to the lowest common denominator and talks about raw scoring/rebounding numbers.

Or the much bigger problem with that arguement...

The fact that Masai was just NOW looking to trade "high character" JV for more the expensive (so why pay more as well?) supposedly "low character" Drummond.

based on a leak of questionable reliability.

[JamesNaismith]

A couple points about the Drummond/JV kerfuffle:

1. Masai's offices never leak.

Pure fiction.

It was leaked that we wanted both Ibaka and Millsap over the summer both of whom we pursued again and were successful getting one AFTER. Not to mention it was WIDELY known before the draft that Masai wanted to get in to draft Giannis and was unable to, same goes with hoping to draft Tyler Ennis. Nevermind the near Kyle to NY deal, DD for Bledsoe, Pat + 1st for Morris etc. Just because many things moves don't materialize doesn't mean we are some vault despite Masai's demi-god status around here.

Heck it's already widely known that we are pursuing another wing (ie/ Gallo, Chandler or Tucker) right NOW.

[JamesNaismith]

sure they would. the media panders to the lowest common denominator and talks about raw scoring/rebounding numbers.

...or that he's already been an All-Star and league leader in rebounding vs Mr 4th Quarter.

based on a leak of questionable reliability.

Which can be said for pretty much any rumour not coming from Stein or Woj.

[hotfuzz]

According to Stein, Raptors offered JV and a 1st for Boogie.

JV's good as gone by next season pretty much.

[Letter N]

Only RR thinks JV is the better player. If the trade happened the media would say that Drummond was the best player in the trade.

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Drummond is the best player in that trade, but they're both poor defensive, offensive minded centres playing in a league that no longer values poor defensive, offensive minded centres. If either gets a 3-point shot then maybe things will change.

[Maury]

According to Stein, Raptors offered JV and a 1st for Boogie.

JV's good as gone by next season pretty much.

Should've thrown in wright or norm. Still worth it.


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[Letter N]

According to Stein, Raptors offered JV and a 1st for Boogie.

JV's good as gone by next season pretty much.

Oh Vivek, why couldn't you have coveted JV as much as you did Buddy?

[Letter N]

Should've thrown in wright or norm. Still worth it.


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Apparently Vivek made Divac turned down much better offers for Cousins but was so in love with Buddy Heild that he forced that shitty trade to happen. So Norm or Wright or Ross or whoever wouldn't have made a difference.

[Maury]

Apparently Vivek made Divac turned down much better offers for Cousins but was so in love with Buddy Heild that he forced that shitty trade to happen. So Norm or Wright or Ross or whoever wouldn't have made a difference.

Yah I know. Still sucks because that was one of our last chances to add a superstar level player to this core.


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[hotfuzz]

Should have dangled Norm instead.

[Cody73]

What if the deal Vlade is talking about was our trade?

[GinobilisBaldSpot]

The Lakers are finalizing a trade to send guard Lou Williams to the Houston Rockets, league sources tell @TheVertical.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) February 22, 2017

The Rockets are sending Corey Brewer and a first-round pick to the Lakers for Lou Williams, league source tells @TheVertical.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) February 22, 2017