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    Masai wont trade Deebo especially if he wants to resign K Low next summer. Never mind the record amount of money he just gave him. "By any means" I meant everyobody but, our two all-stars. Still think Vlade would want at least one proven starter that has all-star potential. That's where Raptors would have the upper hand over Celtics.

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    You're looking at this wrong then. You're saying 'this is what I want, this is what I'm willing to give up' without even for a second considering what the Kings would actually want. Why do they want JV, when they have Koufos, Cauley-Stein, and Papagiannis, none of whom are natural fits beside JV?

    JV is a great talent, sure. But if it's that easy for you to give him up to get Boogie, don't assume that they'll be willing to take him in exchange for Boogie.
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Masai wont trade Deebo especially if he wants to resign K Low next summer. Never mind the record amount of money he just gave him. "By any means" I meant everyobody but, our two all-stars. Still think Vlade would want at least one proven starter that has all-star potential. That's where Raptors would have the upper hand over Celtics.

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    I have to think that Masai would trade for a young top 10 player in Boogie and worry about 31-year-old Lowry afterwards. If and when talent like that is available, you have to swing. I say this because if Cousins lands in say, Boston, or some other pseudo-contending team in the East, unease will spread throughout the fanbase like wildfire. Nobody does panic like Raptor fans.
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    You're looking at this wrong then. You're saying 'this is what I want, this is what I'm willing to give up' without even for a second considering what the Kings would actually want. Why do they want JV, when they have Koufos, Cauley-Stein, and Papagiannis, none of whom are natural fits beside JV?

    JV is a great talent, sure. But if it's that easy for you to give him up to get Boogie, don't assume that they'll be willing to take him in exchange for Boogie.
    Exactly. The Kings have been loading up on bigs for years. They need a headlining guard, especially since Rudy wants out, the recently suspended Collison is a stop-gap, and McLemore hasn't exactly lit things up.

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    Quote Barolt wrote: View Post
    You're looking at this wrong then. You're saying 'this is what I want, this is what I'm willing to give up' without even for a second considering what the Kings would actually want. Why do they want JV, when they have Koufos, Cauley-Stein, and Papagiannis, none of whom are natural fits beside JV?

    JV is a great talent, sure. But if it's that easy for you to give him up to get Boogie, don't assume that they'll be willing to take him in exchange for Boogie.
    All those Centers you just mention are not proven. JV is a huge upgrade from all of them. Fit is obviously not thier priority or they wouldn't of drafted those Centers knowing they already had Boogie. Like I said if they want young proven talent Raptors are the team to call.

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    All those Centers you just mention are not proven. JV is a huge upgrade from all of them. Fit is obviously not thier priority or they wouldn't of drafted those Centers knowing they already had Boogie. Like I said if they want young proven talent Raptors are the team to call.

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    So your entire plan is based on 'Let's get Sacramento to do something incredibly stupid and not at all in their best interest'?
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    I have to think that Masai would trade for a young top 10 player in Boogie and worry about 31-year-old Lowry afterwards. If and when talent like that is available, you have to swing. I say this because if Cousins lands in say, Boston, or some other pseudo-contending team in the East, unease will spread throughout the fanbase like wildfire. Nobody does panic like Raptor fans.
    If your really considering getting DMC you need to make sure your culture and leadership is on point. Like or not but, Deebo is a big part of the culture and leadership on this team. Also him having a strong relationship with Boogie helps too.

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    So your entire plan is based on 'Let's get Sacramento to do something incredibly stupid and not at all in their best interest'?
    How is it not in thier best interest? I'm sure they would rather have JV than the centers they have behind Boogie. Drafting a Center in the lottery when you have the best center in the world is not in your best interet but, they did it anyways.

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    How is it not in thier best interest? I'm sure they would rather have JV than the centers they have behind Boogie. Drafting a Center in the lottery when you have the best center in the world is not in your best interet but, they did it anyways.

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    But there's 5 positions on the floor! Having 4 guys who play the same position, and only that position, and that being your only decent assets in your entire organization, is awful.

    I get it, you want DeMar, Lowry and DeMarcus. And you think that's the only thing that matters. But in a trade, what the other team wants actually matters too.
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    But there's 5 positions on the floor! Having 4 guys who play the same position, and only that position, and that being your only decent assets in your entire organization, is awful.

    I get it, you want DeMar, Lowry and DeMarcus. And you think that's the only thing that matters. But in a trade, what the other team wants actually matters too.
    JV would be thier best frontcourt player. One of Ross/Powell(probably Powell because he's cheaper and better.) thier best off guard. Plus two first round picks.

    I get that you want DeRozan gone but, he makes almost like 10 mil more than Boogie so they would have to send back a couple more players.



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    Quote Barolt wrote: View Post
    But there's 5 positions on the floor! Having 4 guys who play the same position, and only that position, and that being your only decent assets in your entire organization, is awful.

    I get it, you want DeMar, Lowry and DeMarcus. And you think that's the only thing that matters. But in a trade, what the other team wants actually matters too.
    Agreed. The Kings are a laughingstock, but of all the idiotic personnel decisions they've made, misjudging Boogie's value isn't one of him. They know what they have in him, and they aren't letting him go for anything less than a multiple-time All-Star and someone they can build their franchise around going forward-- and preferably someone that can sell tickets to the amazing new arena they're set to begin playing in this season.

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    What happen to all the people that use to tell me JV would be an All-star if he got the touches. So much for that I guess.

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    What happen to all the people that use to tell me JV would be an All-star if he got the touches. So much for that I guess.

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    Huh? Wait, so what do you really think? Do you think JV is a budding star, the sort of player who ends up a centrepiece in a trade for an established superstar? Or not? Because if he is a budding star, why so eager to trade him instead of DeMar, even though DeMar is more likely to be a target in trade talks? And if he's not, why does SAC do the trade?

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    Several issues here.

    1. Drake is a whore who chums up to EVERYONE in the NBA. Are they all coming here too?

    2. The Leafs are terrible and we shouldn't promote any association between our beloved Raptors and those turds.

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    Come on Vlade is a couple of drinks away from giving away Cousins for half the price.



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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    JV would be thier best frontcourt player. One of Ross/Powell(probably Powell because he's cheaper and better.) thier best off guard. Plus two first round picks.

    I get that you want DeRozan gone but, he makes almost like 10 mil more than Boogie so they would have to send back a couple more players.



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    Check my posts in this thread. I ain't suggested trading DeRozan a single time. Nice projecting, though.
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    How is it not in thier best interest? I'm sure they would rather have JV than the centers they have behind Boogie. Drafting a Center in the lottery when you have the best center in the world is not in your best interet but, they did it anyways.

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    They'd also rather have Boogie than JV but if they feel they have to move Boogie, I'm sure they'd prioritize every other position on the court ahead of adding another center. Your logic is simply "get rid of JV" which is pretty far from "any means necessary". At this point you might as well build a package around Bruno, Bebe and Wright because it's just as much a fantasy as your proposal. You need to sell the Kings on accepting your package above what the Celtics or Lakers would offer.
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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Huh? Wait, so what do you really think? Do you think JV is a budding star, the sort of player who ends up a centrepiece in a trade for an established superstar? Or not? Because if he is a budding star, why so eager to trade him instead of DeMar, even though DeMar is more likely to be a target in trade talks? And if he's not, why does SAC do the trade?
    I think JV is starter caliber player with All-star potential. I Vucejic wasn't an All-star but he was included in the Dwight Howard trade years back.

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    I think JV is starter caliber player with All-star potential. I Vucejic wasn't an All-star but he was included in the Dwight Howard trade years back.

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    In a FOUR team trade, where he came from the 76ers, who didn't get Dwight Howard. Come on, that's not even remotely comparable.
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    I think JV is starter caliber player with All-star potential. I Vucejic wasn't an All-star but he was included in the Dwight Howard trade years back.
    "Included in a trade" is a far cry from "centrepiece in a trade" - unless you think Bruno, Wright and Pascal picks have teams excited to acquire our draft picks.
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