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Everything 2016/17 NBA Draft Thread aka Thank Nation 2.0
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So.. let the debate in 2018 over drafting Tadas Sedekerskis vs Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (currently listed 27 and 28 on DX's 2018 mock draft) begin. Either pick could force Charles Barkley to not talk about the Raptors any more on TV because he can't pronounce any of the team members' last names!
I'll also put in a vote for the Raptors to PLEASE not draft Shake Milton out of SMU (listed at #24), simply because Matt Devlin would break records for the number of irritating catch phrases that he'd coin for him during PBP.
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lewro wrote: View PostThis is why I called you biased six months ago when you didn't include JV as part of the salary dump strategy in your raps hq article. I agree with you that it should be Demarre. At most I would have attached siakam but that would have been to the Sixers for bell at 39. That didn't happen. JV now moves to the #1 target imo. Keep in mind, JV is a Colangelo guy. Carroll was masai's top free agent. Doesn't look good to attach an asset to dump, especially when his position is hard to replace. Better to hope he has some measure of return to form or that for some inconceivable reason someone takes him with cojo and bebe. One way or the other, we're taking a loss.
If they were going to use a pick to shed salary I think they'd have done so at the draft. Probably look to just let both secondary FA's (Tucker/Pat) walk now, unless some team decides they want JV or Carroll on merit (both of which I doubt). CoJo probably gone either way (he could be moved on merit, I think).
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DanH wrote: View Post
If they were going to use a pick to shed salary I think they'd have done so at the draft. Probably look to just let both secondary FA's (Tucker/Pat) walk now, unless some team decides they want JV or Carroll on merit (both of which I doubt). CoJo probably gone either way (he could be moved on merit, I think).
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DanH wrote: View PostAs I noted at the time, the contracts are basically identical and JV is infinitely more valuable to the team on the roster than Carroll, AND probably just as hard to move, so I just used Carroll as the example, though anyone with half a brain could see that JV can plug and play into the scenario.
If they were going to use a pick to shed salary I think they'd have done so at the draft. Probably look to just let both secondary FA's (Tucker/Pat) walk now, unless some team decides they want JV or Carroll on merit (both of which I doubt). CoJo probably gone either way (he could be moved on merit, I think).
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JamesNaismith wrote: View PostDisappointed that we didn't try to grab one of Anigbogu or Evans for next to nothing but getting OG was a complete steal.
I really have my doubts about anigbogu. He looked clueless in the games that I watched. Evans was a great get for the clips and they got thornwell too. The guy I'm sad about is bell.
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lewro wrote: View PostYeah, I'm so happy.
I really have my doubts about anigbogu. He looked clueless in the games that I watched. Evans was a great get for the clips and they got thornwell too. The guy I'm sad about is bell.
However I will say that was an underrated pick up for GS...Bell will help give Draymond and KD a breather on the defensive end which is just further terrible news for the league since that means an even fresher Green and KD.
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Hotshot wrote: View PostIf Tucker walks, it would be quite a fail for Masai considering he gave up 2 second round picks for 3 months of service.
I think the acquisition of Tucker helped the Raptors refocus their defensive mindset and got them to play closer towards their potential. If you remember prior to the trade deadline, the Raptors were playing pathetic defense, and losing to teams they really should have beaten (Phoenix, Orlando twice etc). No Tucker, and the Raptors likely get embarrassed by the Bucks in the playoffs.
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Ebonhawke wrote: View PostI think the acquisition of Tucker helped the Raptors refocus their defensive mindset and got them to play closer towards their potential. If you remember prior to the trade deadline, the Raptors were playing pathetic defense, and losing to teams they really should have beaten (Phoenix, Orlando twice etc). No Tucker, and the Raptors likely get embarrassed by the Bucks in the playoffs.
1) its true that you say that 50 + rankings is usually a shot in the datk but regardless having a draft pick is an asset that can be used elsewhere in a trade to sweeten the pot just like used on PJ Tucker (albeit someone that is staying for the long term).
2) Maybe if they did not get Tucker, they would after all lose to the Bucks (debatable). This would probably create a much more drastic need for changes such as firing coach Casey and trading a few of the bigger assets to kick start a new era or a new "process". If we are essentially putting the same team with the same coach with the only caveat's less ISO's and shooting more 3's then we are not moving anywhere fast and in fact might just slowing down the inevitable demise.
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Never forget @MichaelRapaport's hilarious reaction to Porzingis getting drafted by the Knicks in 2015! pic.twitter.com/jeFlRcYtCG
— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) June 22, 2017
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MACK11 wrote: View PostLMA is an emotional bitch. If your asking out of San Antonio there's something wrong with you
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lewro wrote: View PostLol, it bugs you so much to even fathom losing JV that you're still, as you did 6 months ago, playing out every other machinations possible. Doesn't make me half-brain, it makes you bias. You're so enamoured by his offensive efficiency that you deny every other contextual factor: there are two ends of the court, fit, evolution of the game, his development, his intangibles like great loyalty but soft/leadership (especially to anchor a D), and the list goes on. Far outweighs his ts%, Rebs, screens. "Wait for the playoffs" tho, right!?
DanH's arguments for JV over carroll only make him biased in the sense that he's biased towards the team having good basketball players over poor ones.
I don't understand why you insist on antagonizing him all the time.
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