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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Isn't Cousins going to get the max extension? Why are we still talking about him as an option?
    We shouldn't be. Let him scrape into the playoffs this year hopefully. Sacto can extend him and deal with his shit.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Keep using the organization excuse. It doesn't fly. Transcendent talents will change their team's fortunes on the court.

    And guys like Sheed and Randolph were never even close to as immature on the court as Cousins. That "jailblazers" term mostly reflected the knucklehead shit the guys on that team did OFF THE COURT, not on it. Did they get techs? Sure, but they never acted out in such a pathetic and consistent manner as Cousins does. It's also worth noting that everyone knew Randolph would wash out of the league if he didn't get his shit together in Memphis...it was his last chance and everyone knew it. Sheed was always a positive factor for his team and really just had issues with refs. He was also a big part of their great teams before they became the jailblazers (two time all star on a team making deep playoff runs). So Sheed was a big part of a winning situation for many years. Maybe check some facts before you make comparisons. Again, especially for Sheed his issues were all about techs/refs.

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    40 technicals (78 in a 2 year span), and a 7 game suspension for threatening a referee in one season. The longest ever suspension in NBA history at the time for something that was not drug-abuse or violence related.

    Let's not start sugar-coating pre-Pistons Sheed please. And btw he was nowhere near as good as Cousins is.

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    40 technicals (78 in a 2 year span), and a 7 game suspension for threatening a referee in one season. The longest ever suspension in NBA history at the time for something that was not drug-abuse or violence related.

    Let's not start sugar-coating pre-Pistons Sheed please. And btw he was nowhere near as good as Cousins is.
    The referee who ended up getting kicked out of the league for gambling on games he officiated....

    Not as talented as Cousins...again, he was an all-star on a quality playoff team and had no issue playing winning basketball. Not sugar coating anything, just pointing out there's a difference between their issues and Sheed's didn't hurt his team nearly as much as Cousjns, 40 techs and all.

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    Quote Lupe wrote: View Post
    40 technicals (78 in a 2 year span), and a 7 game suspension for threatening a referee in one season. The longest ever suspension in NBA history at the time for something that was not drug-abuse or violence related.

    Let's not start sugar-coating pre-Pistons Sheed please. And btw he was nowhere near as good as Cousins is.
    Jailblazers were also a combination of guys who had the off the court stuff as well as some on the court attitude. By all accounts, Cousins is the only guy on that team during his tenure that has ever been that way. The jailblazers were an accumulative of lesser issues while Cousins is more of an issue and it all on his lonesome. Really far off comps.
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    Didn't say there's no difference between their issues. I said that Sheed had issues of his own and was able to become an integral part to a championship team (and some good teams in the late 90s in Portland when he had experienced vets around him like Sabonis, Pippen and Steve Smith).

    And again I'll ask. So if a trade was on the table for Cousins where we don't send out Lowry or DD like the one I suggested, you wouldn't make it? It's a hypothetical question. If we don't want to discuss it then idek why we're talking about Cousins' attitude in the first place.

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    Quote Lupe wrote: View Post
    Didn't say there's no difference between their issues. I said that Sheed had issues of his own and was able to become an integral part to a championship team (and some good teams in the late 90s in Portland when he had experienced vets around him like Sabonis, Pippen and Steve Smith).

    And again I'll ask. So if a trade was on the table for Cousins where we don't send out Lowry or DD like the one I suggested, you wouldn't make it? It's a hypothetical question. If we don't want to discuss it then idek why we're talking about Cousins' attitude in the first place.
    The answer is I wouldn't trade anything for Cousins. Let him be another team's problem. Let the $200M extension he'll get sink the Sacto franchise so a team can move back to Seattle.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    The answer is I wouldn't trade anything for Cousins. Let him be another team's problem. Let the $200M extension he'll get sink the Sacto franchise so a team can move back to Seattle.

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    That's where I'm at.

    Look, Cousins is very talented. I don't want him on this team. It's not worth the risk.
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    I know this is just your opinion vs. my opinion, but you're 100% wrong.
    I'm also going to second this one. I absolutely LOVED playing Football (before I started playing Rugby that is) but it is absolutely a chore to actually watch (actually enjoy watching sports I like significantly less than Football significantly more). I never got how so many people actually enjoy watching it (granted; I've also heard this applied to Soccer as well). Although on the topic of Football, here's an unpopular opinion that I regularly employ: CFL > NFL.
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    http://www.sacbee.com/sports/spt-col...126012739.html

    Perspective from a Sacto beat writer on Cousins.

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    Not taking sides re: boogie. Just a few observations.

    Sheed did play a role in malice at the palace, which is on court and one of the worst incidents in league history, if not the worst.
    Didn't Lowry throw Casey under the bus in the post wizards series press conference? More recently, iirc Lowry didn't give a ringing endorsement of resigning Casey.
    Neither guy is an angel but they play with an edge that can lead to winning or cancer imo. Two of my favourite players tho.
    Having said that, boogie is a man-child but he could also be the missing piece for us. Imo boogie at his best moves the needle a lot more than Millsap. I think you have to start with jv + norm tho. The trade could gut us but I think we might attract some David West ring chasers. Also, this might be a joke but the trump admin could make us more of a free agent destination. Probably not but little things like Drake can help.
    Ultimately, he's not going anywhere, anytime soon.

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    Oh shit early game.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Oh shit early game.
    Uh oh, that's the Raptors' kryptonite

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    Quote lewro wrote: View Post
    Not taking sides re: boogie. Just a few observations.

    Sheed did play a role in malice at the palace, which is on court and one of the worst incidents in league history, if not the worst.
    Didn't Lowry throw Casey under the bus in the post wizards series press conference? More recently, iirc Lowry didn't give a ringing endorsement of resigning Casey.
    Neither guy is an angel but they play with an edge that can lead to winning or cancer imo. Two of my favourite players tho.
    Having said that, boogie is a man-child but he could also be the missing piece for us. Imo boogie at his best moves the needle a lot more than Millsap. I think you have to start with jv + norm tho. The trade could gut us but I think we might attract some David West ring chasers. Also, this might be a joke but the trump admin could make us more of a free agent destination. Probably not but little things like Drake can help.
    Ultimately, he's not going anywhere, anytime soon.
    If by a "role" in the brawl you mean he was on the court, then yes. He was not one of the 9 players suspended, which included on the Pistons side Big Ben and Chauncey, two huge cancers.

    And the Lowry things you're bringing up I think you're mixing up in your memory. Casey signed an extension after the Nets series. Lowry gave backhanded criticism after the Wiz loss, the whole "i respect Dwane Casey as a man" quote. I dont really remember him saying anything bad after the Nets series when Casey re-signed.

    I have less issue with a player who performs on the court with a high level of leadership by example having friction with his coach, and it's not like Lowry really threw him under the bus in a bad way. It was a quote that could be taken that way on the heels of a really rough playoff loss where we got trounced by a weaker opponent.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    If by a "role" in the brawl you mean he was on the court, then yes. He was not one of the 9 players suspended, which included on the Pistons side Big Ben and Chauncey, two huge cancers.

    And the Lowry things you're bringing up I think you're mixing up in your memory. Casey signed an extension after the Nets series. Lowry gave backhanded criticism after the Wiz loss, the whole "i respect Dwane Casey as a man" quote. I dont really remember him saying anything bad after the Nets series when Casey re-signed.

    I have less issue with a player who performs on the court with a high level of leadership by example having friction with his coach, and it's not like Lowry really threw him under the bus in a bad way. It was a quote that could be taken that way on the heels of a really rough playoff loss where we got trounced by a weaker opponent.

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    GP: 4
    PPG: 12.3
    RPG: 5.5
    APG: 4.8
    TS%: 39.6%
    WS/48: -0.115

    That doesn't look like a good performance to me.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Oh shit early game.
    Maybe D. Rose would not show up lol

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    Quote Lupe wrote: View Post
    GP: 4
    PPG: 12.3
    RPG: 5.5
    APG: 4.8
    TS%: 39.6%
    WS/48: -0.115

    That doesn't look like a good performance to me.
    I meant in general in his time here and never specifically referenced the playoff series. Lowry has been a top 20 player and the heart of our team on the court since the 13-14 season.

    Oh and btw our predictable offence was at least part of the reason he struggled in that series. Our pitiful high screen and roll offence was destroyed as the Wiz trapped and we had clearly never prepared for a team aggressively trapping even though the Nets did the same thing the previous year in the playoffs. Demar had the highest FG% at a sad 40% out of our perimeter guys.

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    Quote Lupe wrote: View Post
    GP: 4
    PPG: 12.3
    RPG: 5.5
    APG: 4.8
    TS%: 39.6%
    WS/48: -0.115

    That doesn't look like a good performance to me.
    Brought his team to the playoffs though

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I meant in general in his time here and never specifically referenced the playoff series. Lowry has been a top 20 player and the heart of our team on the court since the 13-14 season.

    Oh and btw our predictable offence was at least part of the reason he struggled in that series. Our pitiful high screen and roll offence was destroyed as the Wiz trapped and we had clearly never prepared for a team aggressively trapping even though the Nets did the same thing the previous year in the playoffs. Demar had the highest FG% at a sad 40%.

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    We were talking about Lowry's criticism of Casey after the series. How about reflecting on yourself and your own worthless play instead? You're the best player on the team, step up.

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