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  • Vince Carter/Antonio Davis/Alvin Williams (2000/01)

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  • Kyle Lowry/DeMar DeRozan/Serge Ibaka (2016/17)

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    Default Best Raptors "Big 3" of All Time?

    It's way too early for this, but just for kicks! Three of the key/highest usage players from each of three Raptors eras, which is the best Big 3?

    2000/2001 - 47 wins, 7 game second round loss to AI
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    Way WAY too early for this/

    Not to mention that a big three of Lowry/DeRozan/JV got them to the ECF JUST last year.
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    Quote Just Is wrote: View Post
    Way WAY too early for this/

    Not to mention that a big three of Lowry/DeRozan/JV got them to the ECF JUST last year.
    I second this.

    We also arguably have 4 all-star talents depending on how you view JV but still no superstar...so i'd say the pressure's even higher on Casey now to maximize talent and balance out his schemes.

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    Definitely Lowry/DeRozan/Ibaka.

    Rick Brunson/Mengke Bateer/Lonny Baxter a close 2nd.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    It's way too early for this, but just for kicks! Three of the key/highest usage players from each of three Raptors eras, which is the best Big 3?

    2000/2001 - 47 wins, 7 game second round loss to AI
    2006/07 - 47 wins, 6 game first round loss to VC & the Nets
    2016/17 - TBD
    I'd argue our FIRST Big 3 of all time

    2001 - Vince, Davis...Alvin Williams? Mo Pete? Security ass kicker extraordinaire Charles Oakley?
    2007 - Bosh....Tj Ford? The Bargs? Anthony Parker?

    This team rolls any other Raptor team except maybe last years chemistry, TBD.

    Don't forget JV is still developing as well, we are pretty close to that "04 Pistons starting lineup" we all so highly coveted
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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    I'd argue our FIRST Big 3 of all time

    2001 - Vince, Davis...Alvin Williams? Mo Pete? Security ass kicker extraordinaire Charles Oakley?
    2007 - Bosh....Tj Ford? The Bargs? Anthony Parker?

    This team rolls any other Raptor team except maybe last years chemistry, TBD.

    Don't forget JV is still developing as well, we are pretty close to that "04 Pistons starting lineup" we all so highly coveted
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    JV is still the 3rd in my big three. Serge needs help getting good shots moreso than JV, and isn't as good a rebounder. But if his D is as good as we hope, then I can see why he would be the 3rd. But by no means do I think his usage should be higher than JV's. But perhaps it will be.

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    JV is still the 3rd in my big three. Serge needs help getting good shots moreso than JV, and isn't as good a rebounder. But if his D is as good as we hope, then I can see why he would be the 3rd. But by no means do I think his usage should be higher than JV's. But perhaps it will be.
    Nah. Serge is limited offensively but he can do a lot. He can post up, shoot the three, midrange and he can drive.

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    Quote MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    Nah. Serge is limited offensively but he can do a lot. He can post up, shoot the three, midrange and he can drive.
    But can he pound the rock ............

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    Quote MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    Nah. Serge is limited offensively but he can do a lot. He can post up, shoot the three, midrange and he can drive.
    so you want serge taking pull up 3's or off the bounce mid-range jumpers? Most of his offence should come in the same manner that the rest of the role players get their offence. He should be getting his 3's out of the pick n pop scenario or from ball movement after Lowry or Demar collapse the D. Same with most of his mid range jumpers, as a quick pass option if his man rotates off a drive by a guard. Sprinkle in a few post ups, and voila, what you have is basically a cross between Patterson and JV offensively. But that doesn't change the fact that he should be treated as a role player on this team. Cause he should. JV is as well, but as far as I'm concerned he can be featured as an offense initiator more than he is, and handle a higher usage than he gets. Serge, not so much. He is a high caliber role player with strong defensive potential. Now, that doesn't mean I don't think he can potentially have a huge impact on this team. I've wanted Serge here for years. And that impact may well go beyond JV's impact.

    But when I think of "Big 3", I think, "who ya got to bend the D" not "who ya got to punish the D for being bent in the first place"?

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    JV is still the 3rd in my big three. Serge needs help getting good shots moreso than JV, and isn't as good a rebounder. But if his D is as good as we hope, then I can see why he would be the 3rd. But by no means do I think his usage should be higher than JV's. But perhaps it will be.
    I have no issue having a 3A and 3B. Even our 1 and 2 are aguably 1A and 1B depending on how you define the numbering (offensive role versus overall contributions).

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    I have no issue having a 3A and 3B. Even our 1 and 2 are aguably 1A and 1B depending on how you define the numbering (offensive role versus overall contributions).
    So, not a big 3 but a...fantastic four...? What you're saying is actually more along my line of thinking.

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    So, not a big 3 but a...fantastic four...? What you're saying is actually more along my line of thinking.
    Surround that with role players who can shoot and defend (Pat, Carroll in theory, Powell, whatever PG survives the next few months), and you're in good shape.

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    Defensively I expect Serge to be our best/most important player. Offensively, I think it's Powell.

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    3 biggest names we've ever put on the court at the same time.

    Ghost of Hakeem and the specter of Mourning getting on the plane notwithstanding.

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    Quote Raptor Jesus wrote: View Post
    3 biggest names we've ever put on the court at the same time.

    Ghost of Hakeem and the specter of Mourning getting on the plane notwithstanding.
    I'd say this is the best description.

    Ibaka's like half a star and Jonas is like half a star, so in terms of star power it adds up anyway lol

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    Second option is 100% out because Bargnani is in it.

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    This is the first ever "Big 3" in Raptors franchise history imo. No disrespect to Davis who was an all-star back in 01 but that team was all Vince Carter. The 06 team was all Chris Bosh.

    This year we have DeRozan, Lowry and Ibaka. All 3 guys are all LEGIT all-stars.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    This is the first ever "Big 3" in Raptors franchise history imo. No disrespect to Davis who was an all-star back in 01 but that team was all Vince Carter. The 06 team was all Chris Bosh.

    This year we have DeRozan, Lowry and Ibaka. All 3 guys are all LEGIT all-stars.
    I guess you can finally say masai did something good, put his own stamp on the team eh mr Rex?
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    Perhaps jv should be #3 on O and maybe more so in the playoffs but I think he will get less usage now. I think he will mostly get put backs and DD will pnpop/kick outs with ibaka.
    I'm curious if they'd stagger lineups a bit to get jv more 2nd unit touches tho.
    I expect norms usage and mins to go up. With Casey coaching and this system, I wouldn't be surprised to see norm with more FGA than jv (put backs aside).
    Last time I checked jv avg 3.5 more FGA but about 2.5 were put backs, iirc. Granted, DD was hurt so that raised norm a lot. Norm starting over DC would counteract that but who knows if Casey does that?

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