Masai Ujiri said "We need a culture reset"

[MixxAOR]

except that he didn't when cory was defending in the pick and roll. so yeah, actually, you can say guards need to fight through screens better.


all nba screens are illegal, every team faces that.

Watch last game against Cavs. JV dropped too far back in pnr coverage. Cory does a good job but still its not enough. Kyrie consistenly got in the paint.

Yeah all screens are illegal thats why you cant expect guards to fight through all the time. Screeners are way too good. You need a defensive big to be an anchor. JV is not that guy. Easier to move away from him then to accomodate him

[DogeLover1234]

Gasol/LMA are and have always been better defenders than JV. Trust me if we had LMA he wouldn't sit in the 4th because of his D.

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LMA is a ball stopper and takes a lot of long twos, aren't those the two things the Raps want to change on offense? Not trying to knock his game because he does it well but it's something the team is trying to avoid.

[Scraptor]

LMA is a ball stopper and takes a lot of long twos, aren't those the two things the Raps want to change on offense? Not trying to knock his game because he does it well but it's something the team is trying to avoid.

Yes. He has consistently been one of the league leaders in midrange jumpers (7.9 fga/g this year, 3rd overall) along with Carmelo Anthony (9.0, 2nd) and DeMar DeRozan (10.1, 1st). He and DeMar together averaged more mid-range jumpers than Gordon Hayward, Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Isaiah Thomas, James Harden, and Jeff Teague COMBINED.

Just let that sink in for a second.

[Zing79]

When we talk about changing the offence I really wish people got off the 3 point line fixation. That's such an over compensation its insane. An open/easy uncontested 2 is still a higher percentage play then a 3.

There's a middle ground between Houston and the Raps. Spurs ARE that middle ground. Our offence doesn't have any of their off the ball movement (to put people in spots to take easy 2's). We keep bringing it up, because it fits our roster the best. But it's also the least prone to failure.

If we used the SA offense the Raps might very well be playing a game 7 right now.

That last Spurs vs Rockets game is EXACTLY what should have happened with our series. We score easy 2's all day - at will. They have to play half court (which we could guard with better success) and take the series to the bitter end.

We cannot play like Houston. That ALSO clearly has a ceiling we don't want to be a part of.

[A.I]

When we talk about changing the offence I really wish people got off the 3 point line fixation. That's such an over compensation its insane. An open/easy uncontested 2 is still a higher percentage play then a 3.

There's a middle ground between Houston and the Raps. Spurs ARE that middle ground. Our offence doesn't have any of their off the ball movement (to put people in spots to take easy 2's). We keep bringing it up, because it fits our roster the best. But it's also the least prone to failure.

If we used the SA offense the Raps might very well be playing a game 7 right now.

That last Spurs vs Rockets game is EXACTLY what should have happened with our series. We score easy 2's all day - at will. They have to play half court (which we could guard with better success) and take the series to the bitter end.

We cannot play like Houston. That ALSO clearly has a ceiling we don't want to be a part of.

It really isn't a "fixation". It was glaringly obvious in the Playoffs, especially in the Cavs series, that the Raptors are extremely inconsistent and struggle to shoot 3s, which made it easy to trap Derozan. It doesn't have to be Houston level shooting, but at least make your open shots.

Spurs play inside and out sure, but they have Pop as their coach and the player's IQs are off the charts. They don't shoot a lot of 3s, but Spurs are the most efficient 3 point shooting team in the NBA this season.

[jimmie]

We cannot play like Houston. That ALSO clearly has a ceiling we don't want to be a part of.

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Systems don't have ceilings. Rosters do.

If anyone thinks Casey (or any other pro level coach, for that matter) can't coach a ball-moving offence, or move from one offensive style of play or another, they're crazy. The only Q is whether a) the roster is capable of doing so, and b) whether they still have enough faith in Casey to play along.

[Chr1s1anL]

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Systems don't have ceilings. Rosters do.

If anyone thinks Casey (or any other pro level coach, for that matter) can't coach a ball-moving offence, or move from one offensive style of play or another, they're crazy. The only Q is whether a) the roster is capable of doing so, and b) whether they still have enough faith in Casey to play along.

Exactly, rosters dictate what playing style you play not coaches. Right now raptors have mediocre passer/shooters. Need to get players that do that better if you want to play anothet style of basketball.

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[Jangles]

How many different players do we need to bring in before we all realize that Casey deserves the lion's share of the blame / criticism.

[jimmie]

How many different players do we need to bring in before we all realize that Casey deserves the lion's share of the blame / criticism.

More. Caseys flaw has been sticking with the system he thought he could make work with Lowry/Derozan. Changing the system means those players will need to change their style of play, the style that has made both of them successful individually, if not as a team. Can they? Will they? Those are the Qs if this roster returns, and they will still be the same Qs if a new coach tries to implement system change.

[Rand]

More. Caseys flaw has been sticking with the system he thought he could make work with Lowry/Derozan. Changing the system means those players will need to change their style of play, the style that has made both of them successful individually, if not as a team. Can they? Will they? Those are the Qs if this roster returns, and they will still be the same Qs if a new coach tries to implement system change.

I think THIS YEAR is the PERFECT YEAR to bring in a new coach who will preach a new system, and our established stars will be most receptive to change. they KNOW that what they've been doing doesn't work. And it was too difficult to be successful in the playoffs to accept the status quo. We need two things from the new coach: 1) one who's brilliant enough to win all basketball arguments with these guys and win their respect 2) one who is going to HOLD the star players accountable on both ends of the court.

[Rand]

aldridge is a great post up scorer. But watching the spurs operate last night getting the ball into the post and continuing to move off-ball is night and day compared to the raptors "token JV post up to start the game" plays.

Biggest problem with our post-ups is the entry passes. they are always late. Watch the highlights from last night, aldridge gets the ball as soon as he's in deep position. how many times have we watched Demar or Kyle stand at the top of the key rather than the elbow (fundamentally wrong), wait for JV or Serge to get pushed out of position, then throw a bad entry pass that gets tipped? And how many entry passes have we seen where the big has to jump out of their position to catch it, negating their effort at getting deep anyways?

JV is not as smooth in the post as aldridge is. However, on balance over the last couple years, most of the time when we've hit Valanciunas when he actually has deep position or is on the move through the lane, rather than waiting for him to get pushed out, he has been effective. He has issues with double teams but not any more so than our guards, and we should have been working on that part of our offence so he would become better at recognizing the pass-out when appropriate.

Like you said, it's about the system that best fits your personnel. problem is we've never played such a system under Casey.

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS. Jeez why does nobody on these raps forums make that observation? don't you think its friggin ridiculous that an ALL STAR POINT GUARD does NOT know how to make a good post entry pass? for a PG it should be as basic as dribbling. To me it points to 2 things 1) our guards don't want JV to succeed 2) casey knows what they're doing wrong and can't correct it because he's a weak ass coach with no backbone to make his stars accountable.

[Rand]

haha ok i'm gonna stop here coz it looks like i'm the only one posting LOL

[golden]

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Systems don't have ceilings. Rosters do.

If anyone thinks Casey (or any other pro level coach, for that matter) can't coach a ball-moving offence, or move from one offensive style of play or another, they're crazy. The only Q is whether a) the roster is capable of doing so, and b) whether they still have enough faith in Casey to play along.

Mike D'Antoni and Scott Brooks changed the style of play of 2 rosters this year, that were largely unchanged.

[ball4life]

Mike D'Antoni and Scott Brooks changed the style of play of 2 rosters this year, that were largely unchanged.

I'd say Mark Jackson ISOs to Steve Kerr's space and pace was a better example of that. And it was transcendent.

[special1]

Masai Ujiri said "We need a culture reset"

I think it's really simple actually....

Blame EVERYONE.

Masai could be better. Casey could be better. The players could all be better. The system needs to be changed/better.

The guards aren't very good at feeding the post, but our bigs aren't very good at getting deep post position or handling the double teams if/when they come.... so you can see the reluctance all around.

Some of our role players can't seem to step up and take advantage of the attention our stars are getting and therefore the opposing teams don't pay for it.

Two guys that I think we need to move on from are Carroll and Patterson. Two players who shrink when it matters.... especially ones who's job it is to hit WIDE open shots.


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