Masai Ujiri said "We need a culture reset"

[KHD]

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS. Jeez why does nobody on these raps forums make that observation? don't you think its friggin ridiculous that an ALL STAR POINT GUARD does NOT know how to make a good post entry pass? for a PG it should be as basic as dribbling. To me it points to 2 things 1) our guards don't want JV to succeed 2) casey knows what they're doing wrong and can't correct it because he's a weak ass coach with no backbone to make his stars accountable.

people on this forum have been making this observation for years.

I don't think your 2 points are correct though. I just think our guards are 1) score-first by nature and by the system we play, and 2) legitimately aren't good passers for some reason (except for Joseph who is the worst on the team for looking off post players. he needs a coach).

I also think Casey doesn't know how to / doesn't want to use the post offensively in any meaningful way. That's why i don't understand what we have been doing with Valanciunas. why did we turn him into a post scorer if we didn't ever want to play that way anyways?

Basically i'm not attributing it to malice, i just think they don't see their mistakes.

[Rand]

Mike D'Antoni and Scott Brooks changed the style of play of 2 rosters this year, that were largely unchanged.

Yup. Clearly these are the two teams Masai was thinking of.

[Rand]

people on this forum have been making this observation for years.

I don't think your 2 points are correct though. I just think our guards are 1) score-first by nature and by the system we play, and 2) legitimately aren't good passers for some reason (except for Joseph who is the worst on the team for looking off post players. he needs a coach).

I also think Casey doesn't know how to / doesn't want to use the post offensively in any meaningful way. That's why i don't understand what we have been doing with Valanciunas. why did we turn him into a post scorer if we didn't ever want to play that way anyways?

Basically i'm not attributing it to malice, i just think they don't see their mistakes.

come on man, Casey comes from the era of big men and post up game. That's why he has all the all-star bigs from old days come over and teach JV every summer (Jack Sikma currently, used to be Olajuwon, etc). he knows what a good post-entry pass is. he's seen it all his life. His players either just do'nt want to or just suck at doing the post entry pass. I honestly think its the former. There's no magic to it.

[KHD]

come on man, Casey comes from the era of big men and post up game. That's why he has all the all-star bigs from old days come over and teach JV every summer (Jack Sikma currently, used to be Olajuwon, etc). he knows what a good post-entry pass is. he's seen it all his life. His players either just do'nt want to or just suck at doing the post entry pass. I honestly think its the former. There's no magic to it.

yeah i mean you'd hope so right?

anyway, whatever the cause, this team just doesn't do it.

[JimiCliff]

The only team that comes to my mind if you're talking about a drastic change in the style of play WITHOUT changing either coach or star players would be the Spurs 5-6 years ago, when they went from defence oriented to offence oriented.

[grindhouse]

Here is the problem ....
WE DONT RUN PROPER SET!

A list of sets we need to run
https://youtu.be/ZSvZptvUwKg
https://youtu.be/3Q3mxs2u86o
https://youtu.be/hwTI5NL5bvA
https://youtu.be/ixI4npB2gUQ

One on one will never win a championship we need a system to have long term success

[KHD]

The only team that comes to my mind if you're talking about a drastic change in the style of play WITHOUT changing either coach or star players would be the Spurs 5-6 years ago, when they went from defence oriented to offence oriented.

by DRTG, san antonio has had a top 5 defence in 17 of the past 20 seasons, and almost all of those are ranked 1 or 2. They've been top 3 every year for the past five years. The worst they've been in 2 decades is the 11th best defence in the league.

I wouldn't say Pop has ever really gone away from being defence oriented. He's just that good. Only coach I've ever seen win big with dramatically different offensive systems.

[JimiCliff]

by DRTG, san antonio has had a top 5 defence in 17 of the past 20 seasons, and almost all of those are ranked 1 or 2. They've been top 3 every year for the past five years. The worst they've been in 2 decades is the 11th best defence in the league.

I wouldn't say Pop has ever really gone away from being defence oriented. He's just that good. Only coach I've ever seen win big with dramatically different offensive systems.

Wasn't saying that they abandoned defence at any point, just meant that there was a very palpable shift of emphasis - a 'culture reset', if you will - to a team whose identity was defined by their offence, from one who got it from their d. Very rare occurrence.

[Zing79]

Here is the problem ....
WE DONT RUN PROPER SET!

A list of sets we need to run
https://youtu.be/ZSvZptvUwKg
https://youtu.be/3Q3mxs2u86o
https://youtu.be/hwTI5NL5bvA
https://youtu.be/ixI4npB2gUQ

One on one will never win a championship we need a system to have long term success

A guy on a forum can pick out a play that would have abused the Cavs traping. But an entire coaching staff decides instead to pound the rock LOL

[grindhouse]

A guy on a forum can pick out a play that would have abused the Cavs traping. But an entire coaching staff decides instead to pound the rock LOL

Our coaching staff sucks

[grindhouse]

Casey is a really good defensive coach and MU doesn't know enough about basketball to know he is not the right head coach

[Axel]

Here is the problem ....
WE DONT RUN PROPER SET!

A list of sets we need to run
https://youtu.be/ZSvZptvUwKg
https://youtu.be/3Q3mxs2u86o
https://youtu.be/hwTI5NL5bvA
https://youtu.be/ixI4npB2gUQ

One on one will never win a championship we need a system to have long term success

I don't think the inside reverse pivot would work well with any of our bigs as it does with Duncan and the Spurs. Defences would just sag off of JV, Ibaka, Patterson, Poeltl, Bebe making that a really tough pass to expect from a big. It's a nice play but it really doesn't suit our players skill set and wouldn't work unless our bigs could hit that shot consistently (they can't).

The Utah one might be the only one to work but even that one I can't see working with anyone except Lowry as the off ball cutter because none of our other players need to be covered that tight on the perimeter. Defenders wouldn't chase Demar that tight far out enough and so you'd only catch a defender who wasn't focused which is significantly less likely in the playoffs.

Right idea but unfortunately wrong plays.

[Zing79]

Whatever POP makes it's not enough. How on earth was that game today even competitive (given who SA was missing)? Whatever culture they have, we need. Pay whatever it takes to get it.

[Scraptor]

Whatever POP makes it's not enough. How on earth was that game today even competitive (given who SA was missing)? Whatever culture they have, we need. Pay whatever it takes to get it.

I agree, but if it was that simple, everybody would be doing it.

Pop doesn't just understand basketball, he understands people. Leadership, motivation, accountability. He cares about the world and how it works, and our grrater responsibilities. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.34c660b7538e

He's one of a kind, imo. But if you can't get him, or Messina, I'd take someone who's learned under his guidance like Udoka over someone who hasn't like Stackhouse any day of the week.

[Mapko]

I'm with ya.

A guy who in how many years now couldn't come up with more than an iso or high PnR?! Not to mention he was supposed to be a "defensive coach" yet we were never a great defensive team. I'm becoming even more disheartened reading S.R.'s post that Masai thinks that this isn't an issue with players or coaches but simply style of play. Casey isn't going to suddenly turn into an offensive genius and this roster will not suddenly transform into the Houston Rockets.

The first step in correcting a problem is being aware of what it is, thinking giving Casey a new playbook changes things makes me wonder who's more clueless, Casey or Masai?!

Casey being gone should be a given and the next is do you really think you can win it all with an old, undersized Lowry that's consistently broken down by the Playoffs?!

And who determines style of play?
Players?
Casey?
Fans?
Cheerleaders?
Lets get serious here.
What I finding esp confusing that it took Masai till now to determine that 1 on 1 does not work. Never brought that up to Casey before?