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3inthekeon wrote: View PostActually we had VC and T-Mac. It was T-Mac's decision to be "The Man" in Orlando rather than second fiddle to VC that really fucked that team.
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Scraptor wrote: View PostProbably 6-7 years. You'd need 3-4 years of pick accumulation and growing. Then a couple years of playoff experience.
But we would hopefully have a core with a foundational player or two. A core that could give us a 20-25% shot for five years. Right now we are positioning ourselves to have an under 5% shot for maybe five years, and by the end of that period our best players will be past their prime, and we will have to start from scratch again.
If Kyle and DeMar were 25 it'd be a different story. But KD and Curry are only a year older than DeMar, and both are younger than Kyle. Klay and Draymond are younger than both Kyle and DeMar, and we don't even have a third player as good as those two guys.
No thanks.
Let's say every other team decides to tank.....Will we all have a core of foundational players or two? What percentage at a shot at a title would our core give us then? lol
Playing sports is about playing against others who may be better than you. That's the challenge. That's the point. You don't give up and come back in 7 years.....That's crazy talk.
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Exactly. I've asked the tankers on multiple occasions how long it would take before it would result in us being favoured to win a championship. Still waiting for a response.
I'd rather take the Spurs approach. Stay competitive, and wait for the right time to use some assets to move up in the draft to nab a player you think can be special or to trade for a star when available.
We're not moving forward though and have no realistic avenue to do so. If people can't accept the fact we're a good regular season team with no chance at a title, they're going to be pissed off for a long time.
You believe tanking will result in us being better than the Celtics in 6-7 years ? Okay.
We aren't tied to Lowry, DeMar, Ibaka or whomever we sign this summer. They can be moved when the time is right.
I mean y'all can keep pounding your heads into the wall with this foundation, I for one won't be so optimistic if everyone comes back. I'm done with the rebuilding rant for the year, see y'all at draft day.
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It takes one true talent to make a world of difference in terms of potential to becoming a true contender. More often than not you'll find those talents in the top 5 draft picks in any given 7 year time frame.
Cavs have Lebron, Kyrie and Love and they're on the verge of being swept.
You're rebuild fantasy makes far less sense to me (and just about everybody else) than it does to you. Dream on .If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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One true talent doesn't get you past the conference finals. Houston has one. OKC has one. Spurs have one.
Cavs have Lebron, Kyrie and Love and they're on the verge of being swept.
You're rebuild fantasy makes far less sense to me (and just about everybody else) than it does to you. Dream on .
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It takes one true talent to make a world of difference in terms of potential to becoming a true contender. More often than not you'll find those talents in the top 5 draft picks in any given 7 year time frame.
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Deems wrote: View Post.
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Keep dreaming we are a contender or have potential of becoming one.
We're not moving forward though and have no realistic avenue to do so. If people can't accept the fact we're a good regular season team with no chance at a title, they're going to be pissed off for a long time.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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We're not moving forward though and have no realistic avenue to do so. If people can't accept the fact we're a good regular season team with no chance at a title, they're going to be pissed off for a long time.
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Deems wrote: View PostAs I stated earlier mentioning this point, saying we have no realistic avenue to get better sounds more pessimistic than what us 'tankers' are stating. From my interpretation it sounds like you have accepted the fact we have stagnated in mediocrity and are ok with it, which to me is worse than either the perspective of those who believe we can get better with this core & the those who want a fresh start. To each his own I guess.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostTo me, 50 win seasons aren't mediocrity. They're good. Mediocrity to me is barely making or missing the playoffs. It's your rebuild idea that in my opinion will yield mediocrity. I may be wrong, you may be wrong. But like you said, to each his own.
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DanH wrote: View PostYes, and mayyyyybe.
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