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    See SI rated Demar 36th this year, behind Kris Middleton and Brad Beal. Feeling really good about my fearless prediction for Raps to win 51 and to finish 2nd overall now.

    DD takes this stuff personally.

    Can't wait to see if they put one of Jaylen Brown or Jason Tatum of the Chowderheads in the top 30. Sarcasm dripping from every syllable.

    Edit: It looks like Gordie Hayward will land in the top 30. It should be noted that Gord has led his team to 3 playoff series in his 7 years. He has been swept twice (one vs the Warriors) and the win came in 7 games against the limping Clippers last year. Gord has one all star appearances (selected , not voted in) and hasn't made an all NBA team. Stellar credentials.
    Edit #2. Well both SI and ESPN have Demar rated behind Kris Middleton , Kemba Walker, Brad Beal and Jae Crowder...
    They have Kyle behind Mike Connley and Lillard (who Kyle consistently beats out at USA Basketball camp for FIBA/Olympics/World Championships) which ought to frost Kyles bag just a little.

    Bulletin board material more than anything else.

    So feel giddy and will up that to 53 wins this year and a serious run at 1st overall...

    Still can't believe how much Klay Thompson gets overlooked in these ad hoc, seat of the pants, ranking fests... Could be the best 3 and D wing in the association... yet he is behind guys like Hayward. Shame
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    Here's my guess. We're talking about standings right? As in playoff seeding:

    1. Boston Celtics
    2. Cleveland Cavaliers
    3. Milwaukee Bucks
    4. Washington Wizards
    5. Toronto Raptors
    6. Philadelphia 76ers
    7. Charlotte Hornets
    8. Miami Heat
    9. New York Knicks
    10. Chicago Bulls
    11. Indiana Pacers
    12. Orlando Magic
    13. Detroit Pistons
    14. Brooklyn Nets
    15. Atlanta Hawks
    With the recent news about Dennis Schroder, I'd like to revise my prediction. Atlanta will now be 17th in the East. LOL
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    With the recent news about Dennis Schroder, I'd like to revise my prediction. Atlanta will now be 17th in the East. LOL
    I wonder if they will get to 4,000 actual bums in seats when the Bulls come to Atlanta.

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    My new updated list with intense reserach


    1. Toronto Raptors (53-29)
    2. Cleveland Cavaliers (51-31)
    3. Milwaukee Bucks (48-34)
    4. Washington Wizards (46-36)
    5. Boston Celtics (43-39)
    6. Charlotte Hornets (40-42)
    7. Detroit Pistons (40-42)
    8. Philadelphia 76ers (38-44)

    9. Miami Heat (36-46)
    10. Orlando Magic (32-50)
    11. Indiana Pacers (30-52)
    12. New York Knicks (29-53)
    13. Chicago Bulls (24-58)
    14. Brooklyn Nets (20-62)
    15. Atlanta Hawks (19-63)
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    Someone PLEASE give me the case for Raptors > Cavs and Celts. Ive seen three rankings by you guys with Raps at number 1 seed. Are we really better than last year? Didn't Celts get much better? Aren't the Cavs better too?
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    Someone PLEASE give me the case for Raptors > Cavs and Celts. Ive seen three rankings by you guys with Raps at number 1 seed. Are we really better than last year? Didn't Celts get much better? Aren't the Cavs better too?
    It's hard to say if the celts really got any better, and in my mind they got worse. They lost an awesome leader in IT, they're biggest starter is going to be al horford again, they lost all of their perimeter defenders save smart and their defence was already pretty bad. How good is Kyrie? I among others don't think he can lead a winning team. And horford is getting older and losing what's left of his athleticism.

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    Someone PLEASE give me the case for Raptors > Cavs and Celts. Ive seen three rankings by you guys with Raps at number 1 seed. Are we really better than last year? Didn't Celts get much better? Aren't the Cavs better too?
    The Celtics are different. Hard to say if they are better - they have more holes than last year's team. And we were better than them last year, will be again this year.

    The Cavs are a different stratosphere. They could definitely just coast until the playoffs like last year though, so the top seed is no guarantee for them.

    Seeding comes down to a lot more than just which team is better. So although I don't have the Raps pegged for 1st, I do think they have a solid shot at it, depending on what happens this season in terms of teams meshing, injuries, etc.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Someone PLEASE give me the case for Raptors > Cavs and Celts. Ive seen three rankings by you guys with Raps at number 1 seed. Are we really better than last year? Didn't Celts get much better? Aren't the Cavs better too?
    Cavs > Raps > Celtics. Abbas is literally the only person I've seen put Raps > Cavs

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    Someone PLEASE give me the case for Raptors > Cavs and Celts. Ive seen three rankings by you guys with Raps at number 1 seed. Are we really better than last year? Didn't Celts get much better? Aren't the Cavs better too?
    I'm a homer, I'll always put raps over everyone else

    But in all honesty it's cavs then raps then bucks and wizards then finally Boston

    Kyrie has yet to make the playoffs without lebron. Celtics will be lucky to get home count, let alone first seed

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    I think the one difference though, about Kyrie is that he has now witnessed and experienced first hand on what it takes to win. I don't think he necessarily knew that when he was all alone in Cleveland. He's a man now, maybe not the wisest of men but nevertheless, the little boy in the early years of Cleveland is long gone.

    He also is aware of all the doubters and will have a chip on his shoulder. This is a guy who pretty much scored at will against the NBA Champs. I think they'll be okay but overall I think they've only moved up a bit due to all the lost glue guys like Olynyk, Crowder, etc.
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    I don't value Raps as high as everyone else seems to, because they just don't seem to have the depth to over come a injury or one of the best players. If Lowry goes down we're toast, if DD or Norm gets hurt we won't have any depth

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    Cha
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    I don't value Raps as high as everyone else seems to, because they just don't seem to have the depth to over come a injury or one of the best players. If Lowry goes down we're toast, if DD or Norm gets hurt we won't have any depth
    But Boston, Cleveland and Washington have more depth to withstand an injury to one of their two best players?
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    It's hard to say if the celts really got any better, and in my mind they got worse. They lost an awesome leader in IT, they're biggest starter is going to be al horford again, they lost all of their perimeter defenders save smart and their defence was already pretty bad. How good is Kyrie? I among others don't think he can lead a winning team. And horford is getting older and losing what's left of his athleticism.
    Have a feeling Hayward will be their most important player anyway.
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    I think the one difference though, about Kyrie is that he has now witnessed and experienced first hand on what it takes to win. I don't think he necessarily knew that when he was all alone in Cleveland. He's a man now, maybe not the wisest of men but nevertheless, the little boy in the early years of Cleveland is long gone.

    He also is aware of all the doubters and will have a chip on his shoulder. This is a guy who pretty much scored at will against the NBA Champs. I think they'll be okay but overall I think they've only moved up a bit due to all the lost glue guys like Olynyk, Crowder, etc.
    This is how true, but ask yourself this. In the last 3 years how many games did cavs win when lebron didn't play and Kyrie did?

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    Quote Alex91 wrote: View Post
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    I don't value Raps as high as everyone else seems to, because they just don't seem to have the depth to over come a injury or one of the best players. If Lowry goes down we're toast, if DD or Norm gets hurt we won't have any depth
    This coming off a season where DeRozan, Patterson and Lowry all missed time and the team still racked up 50+ wins? In spite of not having Ibaka for the majority of the season?

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    Cavaliers - 57-25
    Raptors 54-28
    Celtics 50-32
    Wizards - 48-34
    Bucks 47-35
    Heat 42-40
    Hornets 41-41
    Sixers 40-42

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    This is how true, but ask yourself this. In the last 3 years how many games did cavs win when lebron didn't play and Kyrie did?
    I don't know. We know that most of this team was built around Lebron as the centerpiece though, so my guess is the answer is "not many"? Would that be accurate?
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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    I don't know. We know that most of this team was built around Lebron as the centerpiece though, so my guess is the answer is "not many"? Would that be accurate?
    That figure has been used pretty liberally on this forum...it's something like 3 and 17. It's not flattering whatever the exact number is.

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    Quote Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    That figure has been used pretty liberally on this forum...it's something like 3 and 17. It's not flattering whatever the exact number is.
    I can't say I'm surprised. That's the impact of a Lebron James. If it were any better, I'd question what Lebron brings to the table.
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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    I can't say I'm surprised. That's the impact of a Lebron James. If it were any better, I'd question what Lebron brings to the table.
    Or another view could be the lack of impact that Kyrie Irving brings...
    Last edited by Demographic Shift; Mon Oct 2nd, 2017 at 08:24 AM.

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