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  • Axel wrote: View Post
    I think you are going to be mad Ceez, cause alsmot everything I have seen seems to be pointing to Leonard Williams to the Raiders at #4.
    i know

    i don't HATE Williams i just like the other guys more. i'll probably end up talking myself into him after a couple hours
    @sweatpantsjer

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    • I want Gurly, Gordon or Marcus Peters at 27 to the Boys. An RB or anyone who helps our D, Pleeeeeeeeaaaassssee!!

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      • Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
        @sweatpantsjer

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        • LOL the Bears will be slightly more exciting this year as they lose.

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          • ceez wrote: View Post
            Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
            My buddy is a die-hard Raider fan as well and I watched the draft with him. He's happy so I'm happy for him. Hope the Raiders get out of the funk this year, man.

            As for Byron Jones to the Cowboys... don't know enough about him so scouting I shall go!

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            • SI Round 1 Draft Grades and Analysis (click the link of the player "read more" for grade and much more detail)

              http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/04/30/201...cetype=default

              For those of you I know who you follow:

              For Ceez - WR Amari Cooper
              The Oakland Raiders badly needed a true No. 1 wide receiver to pair with QB Derek Carr. They may have found one, in the form of Alabama wide receiver Amari Cooper. Oakland nabbed Cooper with the fourth-overall pick, despite defensive tackle Leonard Williams' availability at that spot.

              Cooper is a polished, impressive playmaker—he should slot alongside James Jones in Oakland's starting lineup, with Rod Streater, Michael Crabtree and others helping to round out the rotation. The Raiders have not had a receiver of Cooper's caliber since Randy Moss' brief time with the franchise came to a close in 2005. Williams would have been a strong addition to 2014 first-round LB Khalil Mack, but it's hard to argue with this selection.​

              Strengths: All those statistical accolades did not come by accident. Knows how to create space for himself and does so all over the field. Bursts out of his routes, with a willingness to head into traffic. Capable of handling the entire route tree, no small feat for a player making the college-to-NFL transition. More speed than people tend to think--noticeable when he gets a step on a cornerback and widens that gap down the length of the field. Not bothered by press coverage at the line. Shows awareness against zone, for the most part, finding gaps for his quarterback. Slick body control. Does not waste movement getting to the catch point, then trusts his hands. May not dominate on jump balls in the NFL but capable of going over the top of DBs. Will be ready to contribute from Day 1. All those statistical accolades did not come by accident. Knows how to create space for himself and does so all over the field. Bursts out of his routes, with a willingness to head into traffic. Capable of handling the entire route tree, no small feat for a player making the college-to-NFL transition. More speed than people tend to think—noticeable when he gets a step on a cornerback and widens that gap down the length of the field. Not bothered by press coverage at the line. Shows awareness against zone, for the most part, finding gaps for his quarterback. Slick body control. Does not waste movement getting to the catch point, then trusts his hands. May not dominate on jump balls in the NFL but capable of going over the top of DBs. Will be ready to contribute from Day 1.

              Weaknesses: Fails to fit the “big receiver” mold as several other potential Round 1 prospects will. Drops the occasional pass he should catch, though those mistakes come as a small percentage of his targets. Probably will never be a great run-blocker on the outside and could stand to be a little more physical overall. Almost overreads his routes at times, sitting them down when he doesn’t need to do so. Most anything filed under this category for Cooper is nitpicking. No glaring problems with his game.

              Player Comparison: Jordy Nelson

              Grade: A-minus

              For e_wheazy - OT Ogbuehi
              The Bengals picked up just 20 sacks last season, which led a lot of people to believe that they'd take one of the pass rushers in this incredibly deep class. But with guys like Shane Ray and Randy Gregory dropping out of the first half of round 1, there was the potential to find the right fit in later rounds. Cedric Ogbuehi is an interesting pick here because Bengals left tackle Andrew Whitworth was one of the NFL's best blockers in 2014, but Whitworth will be 34 in December, and both he and right tackle Andre Smith are in the final years of their current contracts.

              Ogbuehi was in the same Texas A&M recruiting class that brought the Aggies Luke Joeckel and Jake Matthews, and he's played guard and tackle at a very high level. There is concern about the ACL injury he suffered in A&M's Liberty Bowl win in December, but Cincinnati's in a position to redshirt Ogbuehi if need be and develop him into the team's next franchise left tackle.

              Strengths: Quick and agile athlete for his size (6-5, 306)who gets out into a consistent and fluid kick-step in pass protection and accelerates quickly to the second level. For the most part, plays with good lateral speed and power, and a wide base, to keep defenders at bay. Has a good eye for twists and stunts and other schemes than require him to peel off his original target and scan protections. Has the short-area quickness and flexibility to excel in pulls and traps. Optimal physical prototype for the position, with a solid frame, good musculature and long arms. Has played guard and tackle at a high level, against some of the best pass-rushers and run-stoppers the NCAA has to offer.

              Weaknesses: At times, will come off the snap too high and can be pushed back into the pocket -- not always a physically dominant player when first attacked. Stronger NFL edge-rushers may throw him around for a while. More an engager than a true drive-blocker -- more prone to sealing the edge with technique than just ramrodding an opponent out of the picture. Slight choppiness in kick-step may leave him vulnerable to speed counters. Struggles to re-direct quickly and pick up the slack when he's beaten to the edge. Not always a target-hitter in space. Concern about functional strength may be overplayed -- sometimes, Ogbuehi simply loses power due to technique issues. Suffered a torn ACL last December.

              Player Comparison: Derek Sherrod

              Grade: B

              Myself - WR Perriman
              When Torrey Smith signed with the 49ers, quarterback Joe Flacco lost his favorite deep threat. He could have a new one now. The Ravens used the No. 26 pick in Round 1 on UCF wide receiver Breshad Perriman, a physical 6'2", 212-pound with sub-4.3 40 speed. It was the speed/size combo that had Perriman's stock soaring ahead of the draft, and Flacco should be able to take advantage of it much the way he did with Smith. Perriman's hands were an issue throughout his time in college, and he lacks refinement as a route-runner. But the Ravens still have Steve Smith in tow and a strong run game, so they may be able to mask some of Perriman's weaknesses. Perriman will not be able to fill Torrey Smith's shoes in full immediately, but he could be better than him in the long run. The Ravens just have to be a little patient.

              Strengths: As his career 19.5 yards-per-catch average implies, Perriman is an outstanding deep threat. But he's also adept at using his size and cut ability to get under coverage on slants and drags. Has a long wingspan that he knows how to use to beat close coverage for contested catches. Can be really tough to beat on 50/50 balls. Runs out of the snap well and digs his foot in to start a route. Big and physical enough to deal with press coverage, able to gain consistent yards after the catch. Could be a huge upside player for a team patient enough to deal with the raw spots in his palette.​

              Weaknesses: High-waisted player who gets a bit sluggish in his breaks at times—is not a sudden mover except in a straight line. May not have the pure burst and acceleration needed to be a top-class receiver; could be better cast as a complementary threat in an NFL passing game, though this could be partially countered with technique fixes. Will need to round out his route knowledge in the NFL. Must gain a better sense of concentration in traffic, and he must use his body better to avoid being re-directed too often.​

              Player comparison: Sidney Rice

              Grade: B

              Mack - CB Jones
              The Cowboys have been wrestling with Orlando Scandrick over his contract, and veteran Brandon Carr was not at all good in 2014. Thus the need for a new cornerback in Big D, and Jones certainly fits Rod Marinelli's preference for fast, rangy athletes. His standing broad jump of 12 feet, three inches at the combine wasn't just a combine record—it was a world record.

              Jones scored very high in all athletic tests, and that shows up on the field, where Jones appears to be moving in a higher gear than most of his teammates and opponents. He could stand to be a bit more smooth in his backpedal, but he's a good tackler and a fine overall pass defender for a team in desperate need. This is a great get this late in the draft.

              Strengths: Might be one of the most athletic players in the draft. IN addition to his world-record jump at the combine, his 44.5-inch vertical was one of the best ever by a cornerback. Has solid recovery speed and plenty of experience, having started the majority of his games at UConn.​—Zac Ellis

              Weaknesses: Coming off a shoulder injury that caused him to miss UConn's final five games in 2014. Sat out Senior Bowl and didn't run 40 at the combine due to the injury. Upside is huge, but injury could cause teams to wonder about his durability.​​—Zac Ellis

              Player Comparison: Justin King

              Grade: A

              Apollo - S/CB Randall
              A year after taking HaHa Clinton-Dix in Round 1, the Green Bay Packers doubled down at safety—in rather surprising fashion—by taking Arizona State's Damarious Randall at No. 30. Not only did Randall overtake Alabama's Landon Collins as the first safety selected, but he joined a relatively crowded spot on the Packers' depth chart. Clinton-Dix and Morgan Burnett played more than 1,900 snaps combined last season, while Micah Hyde took on another 700.

              That said, because of Randall's experience playing man coverage against receivers and tight ends could allow the Packers to shift him to cornerback. If nothing else, he'll help Green Bay match up down the middle of the field, as Clinton-Dix has since his arrival. The league, and especially Green Bay's division, makes having players of that ilk a necessity. We'll have to wait and see how it all fits.

              Strengths: An explosive tackler with good speed, Randall covers ground quickly. Never quits on plays. Often seen running down ballcarriers from the opposite side of the field. A true non-stop motor. Decent hands (pulled in two interceptions for touchdowns while at ASU). Active on special teams, both in coverage and as a returner. Very good at diagnosing crossers and breaking on the throw. Has a knack for disrupting the ball. A bit of a ball-hawk. Doesn't let up if he misses on a play. Has some range from center field. ​

              Weaknesses: Smaller than you would like for the position. Can be caught taking the bait on play-action. Can have trouble bringing down bigger targets. Sometimes late to turn his hips/lets receivers eat up his cushion. Needs technique work in most phases of the game. Teams will target/specifically scheme for his over-aggressiveness. Too easily washed out in the run game when lined up in the box. Has a bad habit of throwing himself at the feet of a ballcarrier hoping to trip him up. ​

              Player Comparison: C.J. Spillman ​

              Grade: B
              Last edited by Axel; Fri May 1, 2015, 08:21 AM.
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              • Cooper is going to give them what they were looking for out of Randall Cobb, only a lot more expensive considering the pick required to nab him. Good pick by them.

                My Packers landed somebody who will step in and start right away. I hope they keep adding to defense today. If they can fill out their secondary and add another LB and DL who can contribute when called upon then I'll be happy.

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                • Apollo wrote: View Post
                  Cooper is going to give them what they were looking for out of Randall Cobb, only a lot more expensive considering the pick required to nab him. Good pick by them.

                  My Packers landed somebody who will step in and start right away. I hope they keep adding to defense today. If they can fill out their secondary and add another LB and DL who can contribute when called upon then I'll be happy.

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                  Can never have too much talent in the secondary.
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                  • I'd say and especially when you've lost everybody from your Super Bowl run.

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                    • The more I read about my newest Raven, the more I like:

                      "There’s no better way to replace the loss of Torrey Smith than with a receiver that many are calling a “bigger and faster version” of Smith, with the potential to become a No. 1 receiver.

                      That’s partly why ESPN’s Jamison Hensley called drafting UCF star Breshad Perriman a “no-brainer” at No. 26 for the Ravens. The young man is an explosive playmaking receiver that can take the top off defenses – his 4.2 second 40-yard dash is one of the fastest ever – and averaged a whopping 20 yards per catch over the last two seasons.

                      Add on the big-boy size of 6-foot-2, 212 pounds and a fearless ability to go over the middle, and Perriman has the potential to explode in the NFL.

                      While it’s easy to compare Perriman to Smith because of their speed, Hensley explains why Perriman could be even better.

                      “The knee-jerk reaction is to label him another Torrey Smith,” the ESPN reporter wrote. “But Perriman is faster than Smith (a 4.44 time in the 40). He's two inches taller and has a much bigger wingspan. But he's also a receiver who isn't afraid to go across the middle and will gain yards after contact.

                      “It's simple: The Ravens needed someone to strike fear into defenses, and Perriman will cause the Steelers, Bengals and Browns to take a few extra steps back.”

                      Baltimore native and ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper gave high praise to the newest Raven, saying Perriman has the potential to be a Dez Bryant type of receiver. Kiper’s analysis sounded a lot like Ravens brass. Head Coach John Harbaugh told WBAL radio Thursday night that Perriman was ranked No. 14 or 15 on the Ravens draft board.

                      Guess where Kiper had him ranked?

                      “He was No. 14 on my board and you’re getting him at No. 26,” Kiper said. “You’re getting a kid who’s the son of Brett Perriman who I scouted at Miami of Florida in 1988 and was the second-round pick of the Saints. …. He caught the Hail Mary to beat East Carolina, he had seven straight games this season with a touchdown reception that dated from Oct. 18 to Dec. 4.”
                      Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                      If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                      • Mack North wrote: View Post
                        My buddy is a die-hard Raider fan as well and I watched the draft with him. He's happy so I'm happy for him. Hope the Raiders get out of the funk this year, man.

                        As for Byron Jones to the Cowboys... don't know enough about him so scouting I shall go!
                        he's got a ton of talent and incredible athleticism. could be one of the best corners in the league in a few years.
                        @sweatpantsjer

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                        • i really like Perriman. Even moreso than Parker. Had the raiders traded down he was the guy i was hoping they'd target.

                          He's going to be a big upgrade over Torrey Smith
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                          • Saints and Panthers had some hilariously bad picks but otherwise i thought most teams did pretty good
                            @sweatpantsjer

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                            • ceez wrote: View Post
                              Saints and Panthers had some hilariously bad picks but otherwise i thought most teams did pretty good
                              I felt all of the O-Line picks were stretches, with the exception of the Bengals at #21.

                              Schreff is good, but Washington has so many holes to fill, don't see how you pass on Williams here.

                              Giants drafted for need rather than BPA, but obviously they disagree.

                              Not a huge fan of the RB picks either. Gurley could be great, but at 10, too high. That team can't block for crap, so it's not like Gurley will be able to carry the team, plus they have Tre Mason and Zac Stacey from the last 2 drafts. If you are giving up on your rookie RB every year, and not giving them help on the line, or at WR, then you are setting them up to fail.

                              Chargers were desperate for a RB, but trading up to get one in round one just isn't good value.
                              Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                              If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                              • Because it's a Friday at work, I present to you, the NFL All-Time All-Name team. A roster comprised of some of the best names in NFL history.

                                http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap1000000207790

                                Bonus awesome for the kick return specialist:

                                Return specialist -- Johnny "Blood" McNally
                                McNally often went by just "Blood" or Johnny Blood, the assumed name he concocted after being inspired by the 1922 film "Blood and Sand." His off-the-field exploits inspired tall tales of debauchery, including one yarn in which McNally "once pulled his car directly into the path of the team train that he'd missed during a late night of wine, women and song. He wasn't even fined, or suspended -- after all, he was the coach." This is the sort of stuff that will make McNally eligible for the NFL's all-time all-awesome team
                                Heir, Prince of Cambridge

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