I've made arguments for keeping Bargnani in the past. I do be live with the right people around him he could be a part of a successful team. His abilities on offense and the match up nightmares he can create are incredible.•One thing that was interesting to me was the difference in responses from Bargnani and Triano when asked whether it’s tough to stay motivated at this point of the season. While Triano said that the guys have been good and focused when in practice, Bargnani took a different stance when he was asked whether it was hard to find motivation, saying:
“Yeah, of course it’s hard. You’re playing for nothing because you’re out of the (playoffs) but you’ve got a lot of motivation to find to keep playing.”
•Playing for nothing. Ouch. More alarming to me, however, was how he answered a question about what he is focusing on and trying to improve in the final weeks of the season. Rather than talking about defence or rebounding, he mentioned his jumpshot, dribbling and post-up moves. Glad he wants to improve on the offensive end, but there’s more to basketball than scoring points.
I also see his flaws and realize it is starting to look like he does not and will not ever 'get it'.
The above quotes and the bolded sections have taken me from 50/50 in wanting to trade Bargnani to about 70/30. This is beyond frustrating for me. We know he consistently doesn't do the things many fans want from him but it would be at least be nice to know it is at least a figment of his psyche.
I don't know if I want to throttle him for the quotes or admire him for at least being honest and true to himself and what he is about despite the views of others.
If a guy like Zaza Pachulia and a young player and/or a draft pick (which one or both depends on the player and the draft pick) can be had for him, I will not shed a tear.
Solid rotational player C, young player on rookie deal, and lottery pick for Bargs - I would think very long and hard (*snickers*he said long and hard*snickers*).
For all his faults, 20ppg scorers and players combining his size and skill set are a rarity and he is an asset. With the right supporting cast I have no doubt he'll flourish. Lately, I question whether the supporting cast can be acquired in Toronto soon enough to ensure a culture of losing is not engrained and the young talent we do have wish to continue to stay.
First off if you say a fan has an objective view on the whole Bargnani debate, then why on earth would they source an article from the score written by some unknown author and specifically quote an answer that has no relevance to anything. And even more use this article to weigh on your decision for keep him or trading him. This is clearly not reasonable at all. Who cares. Why doesn’t the reasonable fan source the Bargnani article written by hoopsworld http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19313
Yea Demar, Ed Reggie etc call him the franchise player. Not to mention one of his goals for next year is improving on D. Holly Mackenize author for blog from the score … Demar Reggie Amir … current players on Toronto raptors … which source would you trust?
Last edited by DunkinDerozan; Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 at 11:32 PM.
It takes effort to be a top 15 player in the NBA.
Quotes lolll the man can't even speak english hope your not beng serious here
Body langue--- lol read above..
Last edited by DunkinDerozan; Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 at 11:30 PM.
Or then you have Demar "Well, you know, we just trying to win....well ..you know, um you know, we just gotta get better,um..you know, we gotta um, you know practice"
I remember 5 yrs ago Bargs couldnt even understand English, now he is at a very impressive level of English, and can usually understand all the questions he is asked. I dont mind the fact he is honest and straight up at all, you know everyone else if just saying "all the right things" that their agents tell them to say.
With respect to Tim saying "you will never win with a guy who wants to score lots of points"...i just shake my head...Bargs is one of the best offensive players in the game.
I love the raps, and unfortunately I think Bargs will get traded. I go to lots of games too, and I will go to see Bargs when he returns, and will also smile inside when he drops 40 on us while cursing on the outside.
One of the best memories I have of this year was going to the Miami game and watching Bargs go at CB. He schooled him with dunks, pump fakes, he played killer D on him, and just brought his A game. It's too bad his detractors will probably get him traded, but then, they will just find someone new to hate on next year.
So true, most of the players seem like robots answering the questions. Triano and Derozan vividly come to mind. I resepct Andrea for speaking his mind because this shows hes got a high confidence level and doesn't care people think. His responses aren't some pr bullshit to make everyone happy.
Yo I honeslty dont think Bargnani will be traded. I think the Raptors will try and make it work with him...
Best part about bargs is that he loves toronto. He wouldnt bail to go "back to the US", like VC, Tmac, Bosh, Demar, etc.
Even if we get a new GM i wouldn't be worried since most basketball people coaces players gm think very highly of his game. It's mostly fans who have a sterotypical winning formula in mind that want him gone.
BTW, notice we lost tonight. Funny how Amir and DD didnt save us tonight. I wonder if there will be any hate on threads about them?
One thing is a fact, u buy a ticket and head to the acc, fans know the truth- count the bargs jerseys on kids, and adults, and listen to the cheers. They know they are in the King-dom at the ACC, all the haters scurry off to post web rants!
we play basketball not defense ball
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