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  • Oden has no hope? Pardon my French but that's a load of bullshit

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    • I think Oden is actually a better player. But his injuries have been really unfortunate. He is a good low post scorer, can attack defenders, is a great defender, great shot blocker, great rebounder or both ends. He is also extremely efficient, but his injuries have plagued him....

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      • When healthy, Oden is the better of the two. He makes more of an impact. Too bad he's made of porcelain. He's like Glass Joe's twin brother.

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        • Depending on the results of thorough medical exams of Oden by worldwide specialists I would swap Bargnani for Oden without even blinking an eyelash, especially if Portland threw in a 1st round draft pick.

          Their salaries about equal.
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          • Buddahfan wrote: View Post
            Depending on the results of thorough medical exams of Oden by worldwide specialists I would swap Bargnani for Oden without even blinking an eyelash, especially if Portland threw in a 1st round draft pick.

            Their salaries about equal.
            I'd go even further to say that I'd swap Oden for Bargs right NOW and take a gamble that Oden gets healthy. Maybe try to squeeze a pick. Bargs just has way too many flaws in his game, making him difficult (read: impossible) to build around. He's a high end bench player on a great team - a taller Robert Horry, if you will.

            There's always a market even for oft-injured (Chandler) or bust (Darko) 7-footers. And if Oden doesn't come back this year, then it guarantees us a top 3 pick, but even better, we don't have to talk about Andrea anymore.

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            • golden wrote: View Post
              I'd go even further to say that I'd swap Oden for Bargs right NOW and take a gamble that Oden gets healthy. Maybe try to squeeze a pick. Bargs just has way too many flaws in his game, making him difficult (read: impossible) to build around. He's a high end bench player on a great team - a taller Robert Horry, if you will.

              There's always a market even for oft-injured (Chandler) or bust (Darko) 7-footers. And if Oden doesn't come back this year, then it guarantees us a top 3 pick, but even better, we don't have to talk about Andrea anymore.
              Good points

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              “As a captain, I played furiously. I drew a lot of fouls, but I brought everything I had to every practice and to every game. I left everything on the court because I simply wanted the team to win”
              Quote from well known personality who led their high school team to a state championship.

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              • Yeah they could have done worse. But they could have done a lot better too

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                • I e-mailed the guys at Portland Roundball Society to get a Portland fans opinion of a Bargs-Oden trade. Here is his exact response:

                  "No way. I'd rather have the Bounty Soft dryer sheets Bear then Bargnani."

                  I think we often talk ourselves into a trade thinking that the other teams might just be desperate enough to give us the top talent in the deal. And yes, sometimes a team might be...and yes, this is a blogger and not the GM of the Blazers...but Portland would not even make this trade without the draft picks coming our way in my opinion.
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                  • You guys are insane to think about trading a guy like Bargs for a guy who can't even stay on the floor for a whole season.

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                    • RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
                      You guys are insane to think about trading a guy like Bargs for a guy who can't even stay on the floor for a whole season.
                      Correction...he has stayed on the floor a whole season...just conveniently spread out over 3 seasons.

                      But in actuality, you have a great point about Oden's durability RaptorsFan4Life. He has had some tough breaks (wordplay!) in terms on injuries. So my question for you is, if the rules were not changed about draft elegibility and Oden was available in 2006, would you have selected him over Bargs?

                      I personally think I would. It goes down to a style thing. I think Oden, when healthy, can have a significantly larger impact on the game then Bargnani.
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                      • but oden isn't healthy.

                        so, really, your argument is pretty much moot.

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                        • Shantz wrote: View Post
                          Correction...he has stayed on the floor a whole season...just conveniently spread out over 3 seasons.

                          But in actuality, you have a great point about Oden's durability RaptorsFan4Life. He has had some tough breaks (wordplay!) in terms on injuries. So my question for you is, if the rules were not changed about draft elegibility and Oden was available in 2006, would you have selected him over Bargs?

                          I personally think I would. It goes down to a style thing. I think Oden, when healthy, can have a significantly larger impact on the game then Bargnani.
                          No I wouldn't of because he had a history of injuries coming into the draft. I'd of picked Bargs or someone else without a history of injuries.

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                          • I actually liked Morrison.

                            ya never can tell who's gonna be good man. People put WAY too much emphasis on the draft.

                            Aside from a few sure things.... it is what it is... an educated gamble.

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                            • Craig wrote: View Post
                              but oden isn't healthy.

                              so, really, your argument is pretty much moot.
                              I was not trying to insinuate that Oden is healthy, merely trying to stir discussion. And like you said about Morrison, you really can never tell. I personally would have drafted Oden if he were in the 2006 draft. And I still think I would, even knowing what I do now about what he has gone through these past few years.
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                              • Morrison is now a bust. But I used to be a huge fan, he could have been pretty great in the NBA. Moustache + crying during loss = awesome NBA player.

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