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JoePanini wrote: View PostDarko can't be a number one option. He has a decent post game but that's it. Bargnani helps our team so much more than Darko ever would. Darko can't space the floor, so we would have 2 wings who are relatively bad from range, DeRozan and Weems, and as Darko has to stay inside they would have to space around the three line. In Minnesota not only do they have 3 point shooters, but Kevin Love does the spacing work, that's why he's effective there. Darko would not put up stats like those on the Raptors.
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Tim W. wrote: View PostBargnani helps the team more ON OFFENSE. He hurts the team on defense and on the boards. Darko doesn't have Bargnani's offensive abilities, but I certainly wouldn't say he doesn't help the team as much or more than Bargnani. Personally, I'd like to watch Darko a little more, but if he gives you 15 ppg (on decent shooting), 8-9 rpg and 2.5 bpg while playing good defense, that's better than 25 ppg, but poor rebounding and defense. The issue with Darko is that he was shooting so poorly in 10 of the first 11 games, he was a liability on the offensive end. In the games since then he hasn't been. It's not how good a player is in one aspect, it's how much a liability he is in others.
By the way, I just want to point out to some others that we have been able to have a discussion where we disagree, yet no one is insulting the other person. Amazing how that can work, isn't it?
Wait, did I ruin it? :P
Actually I think a combination of Darko AND Bargnani would be good. Sort of like another twin towers experiment. I think they're both mobile enough so that the combination isn't too slow, but that amount of size in the paint could certainly help us compete with a lot of front lines.
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as much as i dislike AB he has been showing signs of an offensive breakout. lets see if he can maintain it before we judge.... also now that the team is playing better defence as a whole AB's weak Defence isnt getting as exposed as in the past... atleast not yet..... Candice Parker can still out rebound bargs though LOL
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sleepz wrote: View PostI actually have seen a few teammates talking to Bargs about his rotations. Hopefully one day he'll know where to be on the court instinctually.
I would wait for the season to conclude before writing any team off however. It's a long season and you never know what might happen. You could possibly be digesting your words 3 months from now.
not sure where youre going with the second comment. i didnt say the heat suck, but they do. im merely saying bosh maybe tried to get bargs to have dinner with him, but he didnt oblige.
only LBJ and Wade gave in. I couldnt care less if they win or lose. to me, theyll always be losers.
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tbihis wrote: View Postoh mah bad! i guess calling him barfs and seemingly pointing out every wrong thing that he's doing in every post that you do is "nothing personal" on bargs. holy shit, im scared to be your enemy then! imagine how much more damage youll do if you do admit you hate a person, yikes! im sorry man, please forgive me, dont go postal on me, im sorry, im sorry, there there now.....
i really think its pathetic when people keep hatin here and when they get called out they go serious and do a 180...at least im not donkey enough to not admit i loved bargs, then hated him then loved him again.
i think we'd rather hate on a guy who left under bullcrap circumstance rather than post "nothing personal" messages on a guy who's still on the team! maybe its just me, but i think crapping on a player who's still playing with the home team is kinda not normal than calling a player who left....weird. but hey, thats just me. so what are you going to do when bargs leaves? are you gonna be like, yeah, leave him alone, he was awesome when he was here, yada yada yada.
i think whats really funny is now you turned around and start praising bargs for his 20+ efforts but still throws in those subtle jabs just to keep your feet in the neutral side.
you remind me of those girls in highschool who talk shit about everybody and when get confronted they go, what? i didnt say that!
nothing personal man, just keeping a balance, like what you said.
At least Bargnani is here playing with his teamates not sucking up to that other loser LeBron in Miami.
sleepz has tamed his post hate on Bargs lately to appear more moderate and it looks good sometimes, but as soon as someone says something about RuPaul he goes squirly.
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tbihis wrote: View Postim merely saying bosh maybe tried to get bargs to have dinner with him, but he didnt oblige.
only LBJ and Wade gave in.
That's quite the sexual preference bosh has.
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sleepz wrote: View PostWhat does that mean? A lot of derogatory chat on these forums. Administrators should clean it up as majority of us are grown adults not juveniles.
Barfs should be thaking Bosh for taking him under his wing and turning him into a terrific perimeter scorer. Wish he could have schooled him better on the boards, but the scoring is good for now.
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That was a very flattering article on Bargnani. The Miami media putting that out there was most definitely the equivalent to poking somebody with a sharp stick.
The confidence Bargs has played with the last few games, especially against Philly, is quite obvious. I am curious to see what he does tonight. Shaq had 25/11 last game for BOS.
Rebounding is something I stopped expected from Bargnani a while ago now. My life is much better for it. One thing that I cannot let go however is his inability to go left when he posts up. If he could do a move to the middle and finish back to the left side with a little hook or drop step it would really help that part of his game. The only other C I can think of who could go left less than Bargnani was Patrick Ewing.
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tbihis wrote: View PostBoth were drafted with very high expectations
Difference is, Darko was never given a chance to develop, Bargs was given the chance but did not fully grasp it.
I know everybody will hate me but id take Darko.
Cant teach defense. Shotblocking and rebounding takes instinct. you have to know where the ball is going to land, you have to know when to jump to get that block.
As we see now, Darko is getting shots and making them. Even if he doesnt shoot the 3, he can still get the 25pts in the paint.
Bargs may be a mismatch nightmare, but when he's off, nothing he can do. At least with Darko, he can still rely on his defense.
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_cp_ wrote: View PostHAHAHAHAHA ahhhh yes it was bosh who was responsible for making bags a perimeter scorer. perhaps you should youtube some videos of bargs pre draft, or maybe bosh raised him in italy and showed him the ways of perimeter scoring back then. but i suppose those who cant, teach, maybe bosh can watch come game film and get some pointers from bargs now, he could use them. the only thing bosh could've taught bargs was a low post game, but we all know how sorely lacking his was both here and in miami. get your head out of your ass
AHhahahah awesome. Man, I really hope to see Bargs destroy CBWhore when Miami comes here next year. Guaranteed Bosh has a "sick day" for that one, pu***
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heinz57 wrote: View PostSo am i to understand, that what you're saying, is that you believe... that bosh has a habit... nay, let's call it a preference... to ask his teammates of a certain gender... or as some say, "sex"... out for dinner?
That's quite the sexual preference bosh has.
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Marz wrote: View PostYou're a loser.
Oh, and I think you meant to say "Your" a loser.
Marz wrote: View PostActually I think a combination of Darko AND Bargnani would be good. Sort of like another twin towers experiment. I think they're both mobile enough so that the combination isn't too slow, but that amount of size in the paint could certainly help us compete with a lot of front lines.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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_cp_ wrote: View Postactually defense can be taught, theres no glory in it so very few learn itRead my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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