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  • RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Actually his rebounding and blocking has gotten better ever year... stat wise. It's still not great but he has improved...

    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/playe...jLJlU.R9MTRwU6
    You're looking at his totals. The main difference is that Bargnani is getting more minutes, not that his rebounding is getting any better. Bargnani averaged 10 more minutes a game from his rookie season to his fourth.

    As for blocking, since it is absolutely no indication of how good a defender a player is, there's no point in looking at it (although it's not any better, either). Watching him play, I've seen really no improvement in his team defense. After four years, he still appears to have no real clue of what to do and when to do it. By the time you get to Bargnani's age, it should be instinctual, but it's not. Beyond all the hype and arguing, this should be extremely troubling to any Raptor fan. You should never, ever have to teach a 25 year old basketball player who's been playing in the NBA for four years basic team defense. It's not coaching because he's had some of the best coaching in the world the last ten years.
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    • Multipaul wrote: View Post
      Haters

      You guys are OK with "giving Demar a chance" though. His #'s and skillz aint sh*t compared to Bargs. Gimme a break.
      lol 2 + 2 = 5!!

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      • Is this really news - I thought everyone knew Bargs is a bench player - Toronto just doen's have any other options.

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        • LaMarcus Aldridge or Andrea Bargnani?

          I know this must come up every once in a while. But would you take Aldridge if you could do the draft over again?

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          • I would rather have

            Roy
            Gay
            Rondo
            Milsap

            Over either of those guys
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            • Well Bargs proved once again today he can rebound and play well.

              Andrea Bargnani 23 PT 8-19 FG 5-6 FT 2-5 3P 9/3 RB 2 AS 1 BL 2 ST 5 TO 0 PF 38 MN (Final, Bobcats)
              Last edited by RaptorsFan4Life; Thu Nov 11, 2010, 03:24 AM.

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              • Yea, its all good in hindsight. Most of the top of that draft class sucked though. BC went with the guy with the most upside, but I would still take Aldridge though. Tyrus Thomas is starting to look promising too eh.

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                • I was all for getting Aldridge, but I don't know if he'd have faired much better than Bargs on the Raptors. He couldn't handle the C position IMO. Present moment I'd still take him over Bargnani, though I'd take all the guys Buddah mentioned over both as well. I've been on the Millsap bandwagon since he was a rook and killed the Raps one game early that season. Glad to see he's getting the chance to shine as a starter now.

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                  • i rather have andrea no lie

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                    • Buddahfan wrote: View Post
                      I would rather have

                      Roy
                      Gay
                      Rondo
                      Milsap

                      Over either of those guys
                      If you put those four guys on the court with Bargnani you would have a pretty good group of five.

                      C - Bargnani
                      PF - Milsap
                      SF - Gay
                      SG - Roy
                      PG - Rondo

                      Not too shabby.
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                      • Buddahfan wrote: View Post
                        If you put those four guys on the court with Bargnani you would have a pretty good group of five.

                        C - Bargnani
                        PF - Milsap
                        SF - Gay
                        SG - Roy
                        PG - Rondo

                        Not too shabby.
                        And Rondo might be the best rebounder! lol, alright, close second to Millsap...

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                        • Yeah, while also being allergic to clutch.

                          Who cares about his numbers when he can't come through when the team really needs him.

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                          • RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
                            Well Bargs proved once again today he can rebound and play well.
                            Can we please not take specific games as proof of anything? Otherwise the next bad game he plays someone else will use that as "proof he sucks". He played well tonight, despite the turnovers. It's a long season, though. He's never had a problem having good rebound games once in a while. This is the same guy who grabbed 17 in a game last year. The problem is he finished the season with 6. Obviously consistency is the problem with rebounding. And it obviously still is.

                            I actually thought his defense was decent tonight, as well. Certainly not great, but decent. If he continues to play like this regularly, I will take back everything I've said about the guy.
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                            • Are we being offered the choice?
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                              • At least we didn't take the guy that was picked third that year....

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