Jose would KILL the Skills Competition. Should have had a chance at least.

[karim_nasir]

Name a starting PG that's played in the last 10 years that Jose is better than.
And the awful thing is that when the really bad PG's in the league do play against Jose, they end looking like all stars.
Sorry guys, he's awful.

hahah i remember when mitchell got fired, the 2nd game for triano was against the trail blazers and steve blake looked like a combination of magic johnson and isiah thomas against jose...

if you think other teams are calling about jose "all the time" than BC is an even worse GM than i thought for him to not pull the trigger and get us out from under jose's massive contract

[keffyboy]

This is from yahoo sports on tonite's game:
"Augustin, healthy again after being slowed by a sprained left wrist before the break, dominated Jose Calderon(notes) while hitting eight of 15 shots."
And, ummm, DJ Augustin isn't very good either.

[MangoKid]

name some nba starting pg's who you think calderon is better than ?

Holliday
Harris
Nelson
Collison
Stuckey
MWilliams/Sessions
Chalmers
Bibby
Augustin
Ridnour
Fisher/Blake
Udrih
Lowry/Brooks

That's what? Like half the league.

[karim_nasir]

Holliday
Harris
Nelson
Collison
Stuckey
MWilliams/Sessions
Chalmers
Bibby
Augustin
Ridnour
Fisher/Blake
Udrih
Lowry/Brooks

That's what? Like half the league.

oh god, you think jose is better than holiday ?? i havnt even read the rest of your list but WOW...

cp3
d will
rose
rondo
westbrook
nash
billups
felton
jennings
harris
wall
holiday
curry
mo will
parker
kidd
blake
heinrich
miller
conley

i think you have to be included in MY list to be considered a solid pg

[karim_nasir]

cbs sports has him ranked 24th

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/playerr...gularseason/PG

[karim_nasir]

ranked 28th in this list

http://www.suite101.com/content/rank...n-2011-a348629

[MangoKid]

Okay, now that some of you have had your say about Calderon's worth, how about we stay back on topic, k lads?

[karim_nasir]

This is from yahoo sports on tonite's game:
"Augustin, healthy again after being slowed by a sprained left wrist before the break, dominated Jose Calderon(notes) while hitting eight of 15 shots."
And, ummm, DJ Augustin isn't very good either.

in 9 games in february, augustine was averaging 8.7 pts, and shooting 30.8% from the field.

im gona leave it at that.

[keffyboy]

You on drugs Mangokid?
Those guys are all better than Jose, and when they play against him they end up looking like CP3.
Are you one of those guys that loses and argument and ends up making stuff up just to keep it going???

[MangoKid]

You on drugs Mangokid?
Those guys are all better than Jose, and when they play against him they end up looking like CP3.
Are you one of those guys that loses and argument and ends up making stuff up just to keep it going???

Really? Did you really try to make an argument whilst making personal attacks? If you want to debate what's on topic, I'll be more than happy to, but leave the childish retorts at home. Thank you.

[Joey]

Don't worry Mango, ALL 13 of Keffy's posts have been unworthy of response. I just figured I'd give him a chance. Now we know better.

[keffyboy]

Yeah,
Now I know better.
You've convinced me that Jose is awesome.
That's why Ricky Rubio started for the Spanish national team over him when he was 15.

[MangoKid]

oh god, you think jose is better than holiday ?? i havnt even read the rest of your list but WOW...

cp3
d will
rose
rondo
westbrook
nash
billups
felton
jennings
harris
wallholiday
curry
mo will
parker
kidd
blake
heinrichmiller
conley

i think you have to be included in MY list to be considered a solid pg

The Wiz start 2 PG's?

And I don't think Blake is the starting PG for the Lakers.

[MangoKid]

Yeah,
Now I know better.
You've convinced me that Jose is awesome.
That's why Ricky Rubio started for the Spanish national team over him when he was 15.

Link please and thank you.

[keffyboy]

Jose is just terrible. He's the quarterback for an offense that is terrible, and he's the worst defensive player on a terrible defense.
We can all accept that he's an awful basketball player.