Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Are We Done With The Euro-Centric Drafts?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #46
    smushmush wrote: View Post
    Actually, the best prospect if Kyrie Irving is not on the board is Terrence Jones imo.
    ones being compared to marvin williams, and the other to all-star Al Horford, one of them definitely has more upside, and if his knees check out I like al hor....I mean enes kante'rs potential more than the other guy.

    Comment


    • #47
      grindhouse wrote: View Post
      are you taking into consideration that he may have looked better than he is because the US team went in there with fitness centers not bangers? I think the US played lamar odom at center at times.
      But fitness centers are in really good shape tho.

      But seriously man, I would take an undersized Lamar over an 18 year old Kanter.
      Last edited by Employee; Fri Feb 25, 2011, 03:52 PM.
      Eh follow my TWITTER!

      Comment


      • #48
        Yearly Rant Time

        What the heck does Hoffa have to do with anything? He wasn't even selected by Colangelo.

        Some of you guys sound very prejudice. Why does it matter where the player comes from? One of the greatest PGs of All-time came from outside America, Steve Nash. Maybe the best center of all-time, Hakeem "the Dream" came from outside America. How many titles would the Spurs have without Manu or Tony Parker? How many MVPs does Chirs Bosh have? How about Dirk Nowitzki? Every time I read crap like "don't draft another Euro" it irks me tremendously. I don't think people realize how ignorant it makes them sound. Such a statement, in my opinion, is just as bad as saying you don't want anyone on your team who isn't white and Christian. Making social division based on race, religion or region are all the same in my book but maybe it's just me. We as fans get pissed off when the American media suggests a player wouldn't want to play in Toronto because it's not America and then we turn around an pull the same sort of ignorance out of our own bag of tricks when it comes to players playing here from outside North America? Bull shit alert. Bull shit alert. Code red. I want to see Colangelo pick the best guy on his board. I don't give two shits if he's from L.A. or London or where ever.

        - Colangelo drafted Bargnani because he was the best players on his draft board
        - Were Colangelo to find guys Jorge Garbasoa who were in the league already and from America then the price tag would have been far higher. People slept on guys like that because they were off the radar playing else where. If Colangelo can find five guys like Jorge Garbajosa then I would say by all means get that done immediately. The Spurs put together one of the greatest decades in NBA history because people were sleeping on international players.

        Comment


        • #49
          Apollo wrote: View Post
          What the heck does Hoffa have to do with anything? He wasn't even selected by Colangelo.

          Some of you guys sound very prejudice. Why does it matter where the player comes from? One of the greatest PGs of All-time came from outside America, Steve Nash. Maybe the best center of all-time, Hakeem "the Dream" came from outside America. How many titles would the Spurs have without Manu or Tony Parker? How many MVPs does Chirs Bosh have? How about Dirk Nowitzki? Every time I read crap like "don't draft another Euro" it irks me tremendously. I don't think people realize how ignorant it makes them sound. Such a statement, in my opinion, is just as bad as saying you don't want anyone on your team who isn't white and Christian. Making social division based on race, religion or region are all the same in my book but maybe it's just me. We as fans get pissed off when the American media suggests a player wouldn't want to play in Toronto because it's not America and then we turn around an pull the same sort of ignorance out of our own bag of tricks when it comes to players playing here from outside North America? Bull shit alert. Bull shit alert. Code red. I want to see Colangelo pick the best guy on his board. I don't give two shits if he's from L.A. or London or where ever.

          - Colangelo drafted Bargnani because he was the best players on his draft board
          - Were Colangelo to find guys Jorge Garbasoa who were in the league already and from America then the price tag would have been far higher. People slept on guys like that because they were off the radar playing else where. If Colangelo can find five guys like Jorge Garbajosa then I would say by all means get that done immediately. The Spurs put together one of the greatest decades in NBA history because people were sleeping on international players.
          Thank you.
          Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
          Follow me on Twitter.

          Comment


          • #50
            Apollo wrote: View Post
            Some of you guys sound very prejudice. Why does it matter where the player comes from? One of the greatest PGs of All-time came from outside America, Steve Nash. Maybe the best center of all-time, Hakeem "the Dream" came from outside America. How many titles would the Spurs have without Manu or Tony Parker? How many MVPs does Chirs Bosh have? How about Dirk Nowitzki? Every time I read crap like "don't draft another Euro" it irks me tremendously. I don't think people realize how ignorant it makes them sound. Such a statement, in my opinion, is just as bad as saying you don't want anyone on your team who isn't white and Christian. Making social division based on race, religion or region are all the same in my book but maybe it's just me. We as fans get pissed off when the American media suggests a player wouldn't want to play in Toronto because it's not America and then we turn around an pull the same sort of ignorance out of our own bag of tricks when it comes to players playing here from outside North America? Bull shit alert. Bull shit alert. Code red. I want to see Colangelo pick the best guy on his board. I don't give two shits if he's from L.A. or London or where ever.
            Good point.
            Eh follow my TWITTER!

            Comment


            • #51
              grindhouse wrote: View Post
              are you taking into consideration that he may have looked better than he is because the US team went in there with fitness centers not bangers? I think the US played lamar odom at center at times.
              Maybe, but from clips I've seen in other games he's also looked very good. Like I said, though, I'd love to see more of him. I was hoping he'd play somewhere in Europe after he got turned down by the NCAA because a lot of judgement is going to be based on workouts, with him, and I don't like that.
              Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
              Follow me on Twitter.

              Comment


              • #52
                i for one would welcome more european players, as long as they're good... and as long as they leave that euro-trash trance ibiza type BS music back across the pond

                Comment


                • #53
                  I keep hearing about these knee problems of Kanter. Apart from one instance of a self reporting of such and a recuperative time of 5 months (with no other details I can find), does anyone have some more info on this? News flash: Knee injuries in basketball are not unusual. This seems to be a regurgitating reporting/mentioning of a single injury instance without any substantive detail. I would attach more importance to his personal preference for playing the 3 spot!! A big boy like him "wanting" to play sf and apparently Calipari agreed with him. There are some assessments revelations here that dont compute. But then again I am unsure about the source of the interview....

                  http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/enes-kanter-interview

                  Comment


                  • #54
                    Apollo wrote: View Post
                    What the heck does Hoffa have to do with anything? He wasn't even selected by Colangelo.

                    Some of you guys sound very prejudice. Why does it matter where the player comes from? One of the greatest PGs of All-time came from outside America, Steve Nash. Maybe the best center of all-time, Hakeem "the Dream" came from outside America. How many titles would the Spurs have without Manu or Tony Parker? How many MVPs does Chirs Bosh have? How about Dirk Nowitzki? Every time I read crap like "don't draft another Euro" it irks me tremendously. I don't think people realize how ignorant it makes them sound. Such a statement, in my opinion, is just as bad as saying you don't want anyone on your team who isn't white and Christian. Making social division based on race, religion or region are all the same in my book but maybe it's just me. We as fans get pissed off when the American media suggests a player wouldn't want to play in Toronto because it's not America and then we turn around an pull the same sort of ignorance out of our own bag of tricks when it comes to players playing here from outside North America? Bull shit alert. Bull shit alert. Code red. I want to see Colangelo pick the best guy on his board. I don't give two shits if he's from L.A. or London or where ever.

                    - Colangelo drafted Bargnani because he was the best players on his draft board
                    - Were Colangelo to find guys Jorge Garbasoa who were in the league already and from America then the price tag would have been far higher. People slept on guys like that because they were off the radar playing else where. If Colangelo can find five guys like Jorge Garbajosa then I would say by all means get that done immediately. The Spurs put together one of the greatest decades in NBA history because people were sleeping on international players.
                    actually no, colangelo was the one that hyped him up, and that's why his stock rose.

                    Comment


                    • #55
                      Bendit wrote: View Post
                      I keep hearing about these knee problems of Kanter. Apart from one instance of a self reporting of such and a recuperative time of 5 months (with no other details I can find), does anyone have some more info on this? News flash: Knee injuries in basketball are not unusual. This seems to be a regurgitating reporting/mentioning of a single injury instance without any substantive detail. I would attach more importance to his personal preference for playing the 3 spot!! A big boy like him "wanting" to play sf and apparently Calipari agreed with him. There are some assessments revelations here that dont compute. But then again I am unsure about the source of the interview....

                      http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/enes-kanter-interview
                      Ya, there seems to be pretty much no information on Kanter's "knee issues". But he's a question mark all around because he's played so little in the last 6 months.

                      I hadn't heard his preference for playing SF. Maybe he's thinking of a Charles Barkley-type when he was in Philadephia? Ya, that revelation is a little worrisome, but it's not like he's soft or doesn't like to bang down low. Still, I don't understand this aversion players have nowadays to playing center.
                      Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
                      Follow me on Twitter.

                      Comment


                      • #56
                        pran wrote: View Post
                        actually no, colangelo was the one that hyped him up, and that's why his stock rose.
                        Bargnani was rated high before Toronto had the #1 pick. And it's not as if Bargnani has been a bust. I'm obviously not a fan of his game, and would have picked Aldridge, but the guys IS one of the better players to come out of that draft.
                        Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
                        Follow me on Twitter.

                        Comment


                        • #57
                          pran wrote: View Post
                          actually no, colangelo was the one that hyped him up, and that's why his stock rose.
                          That draft was a crapshoot. Bargs would've been my 4th choice out of all those players (hindsight 20/20). But about 25 other GM's wish they could've done that draft differently.
                          Eh follow my TWITTER!

                          Comment


                          • #58
                            pran wrote: View Post
                            actually no, colangelo was the one that hyped him up, and that's why his stock rose.
                            Actually, you're wrong. Colangelo had been scouting him for years. It was well known that he was at the top of Colangelo's draft board well before the draft. Perhaps you misread what I said?

                            Comment


                            • #59
                              Apollo wrote: View Post
                              What the heck does Hoffa have to do with anything? He wasn't even selected by Colangelo.

                              Some of you guys sound very prejudice. Why does it matter where the player comes from? One of the greatest PGs of All-time came from outside America, Steve Nash. Maybe the best center of all-time, Hakeem "the Dream" came from outside America. How many titles would the Spurs have without Manu or Tony Parker? How many MVPs does Chirs Bosh have? How about Dirk Nowitzki? Every time I read crap like "don't draft another Euro" it irks me tremendously. I don't think people realize how ignorant it makes them sound. Such a statement, in my opinion, is just as bad as saying you don't want anyone on your team who isn't white and Christian. Making social division based on race, religion or region are all the same in my book but maybe it's just me. We as fans get pissed off when the American media suggests a player wouldn't want to play in Toronto because it's not America and then we turn around an pull the same sort of ignorance out of our own bag of tricks when it comes to players playing here from outside North America? Bull shit alert. Bull shit alert. Code red. I want to see Colangelo pick the best guy on his board. I don't give two shits if he's from L.A. or London or where ever.

                              - Colangelo drafted Bargnani because he was the best players on his draft board
                              - Were Colangelo to find guys Jorge Garbasoa who were in the league already and from America then the price tag would have been far higher. People slept on guys like that because they were off the radar playing else where. If Colangelo can find five guys like Jorge Garbajosa then I would say by all means get that done immediately. The Spurs put together one of the greatest decades in NBA history because people were sleeping on international players.
                              Uroš Slokar - played 20 nba games. returned to Europe
                              Roko Ukić - drafted by us in 2005. played for the Bucks in 2008. returned to Europe
                              Albert Miralles - drafted by us. his rights have changed hands repeatedly.
                              Edin Bavcic - drafted. rights now owned by the 76ers

                              The issue is that they do not show up. So under the possibility that you could find a steal is that you might not even get a player.
                              “I have no idea who Chukwudiebere Maduabum is, but on his Draft Express profile, he’s listed as Chu Chu. I think he’s worthy of picking just for that. He immediately is in the running for best All-Time NBA name.” -Tim W.

                              Comment


                              • #60
                                Tim W. wrote: View Post
                                I remember the same thing being said of Schortsanitis, Johan Petro, Martynas Andriuskevicius, Mouhamed Sene, Patrick O'Bryant, Hilton Armstrong and countless others. Unfortunately, they all suck in the NBA. You know they other thing you can't teach? Basketball IQ. Noah's got it.
                                I made reference to his athleticism after a comment referring him to Hoffa 2.0. They are about as different as different players as they come. Good points on the other players and the basketball IQ.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X