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Superjudge wrote: View PostWell, one reason..... ross isn't as good as Klay Thoimpson.
Bargnani = Dirk
Ross = Ray Allen
DeRozan = Kobe (remembering this is the DeRozan thread)
It also goes to show how the team/situation/system always plays a huge role in player development. Some players need the right opportunity to blossom; only the very best players are able to create their own opportunity.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI admittedly haven't seen much of Thompson, but I can't help but wonder how much he's benefiting from playing alongside Curry.
I think if you swap Harden with Thompson, Warriors get better and Rockets get worse (at least on paper...).
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Bendit wrote: View PostYou really think so? Case can be made that the Beard has more offensive skills...but dear god the statuesque D. Klay bowls him over there. He also wants the ball and that might be upsetting for Curry.
But Harden didn't have much trouble being effective in OKC, as the 3rd banana.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostThat's why I added the disclaimer "on paper"
But Harden didn't have much trouble being effective in OKC, as the 3rd banana.
The on-paper defense eh!! Jian Gh. should use that one
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Rather than hijack the 3 stars thread, I moved this response here:
chico wrote: View Postlol, "Ripped on"? What exactly did anyone say that you categorize being ripped? All seems pretty baby bottom gentle disagreement to me. Which is alright, yes?
Certainly no call for "cute" cheap shot (c'mon, we all know it's meant as a demeaning term, whatever the "innocence of grammar" spin doctored claims) DOD name calling. I mean really, we've been down this schoolyard bullying road already. Time to move on. The kid's got fans here. Get used to it, and accept that there will be disagreement with your assessments. Christ, this DOD thing is nothing but an attempt to demean those that disagree with you, and elevate yourself above the crowd. pffffffffft
You know your argument is weak when your using the "can't take criticism" card. Really? Is that the best defense ya got against criticism of your opinion? Who can't take criticism?
Why not listen to the originator of the term "District of DeRozan" on its real meaning.
District of DeRozan is a play on RaptorsRepublic and District of Columbia. One would think the term should have been DeRozansDistrict but the Washington, District of Columbia (D.C.) made it sound better, in the creator's opinion, so I went with that.
Now what is the meaning?
Well, this is a Raptors fan forum. I was always brought up to put the team before the individuals. Considering that every criticism of DeRozan has always been with the best interests of the team in mind, I always found it confusing the amount of backlash these criticisms brought about when, again, the whole focus of the criticism is to create a better Raptor TEAM. So one day it dawned on me, those who so passionately fight against any and all form of DeRozan criticism must be more of a DeRozan fan than a Raptor fan.
So there you have it, the origination of the term District of DeRozan. Considering the explanations behind the term like the one quoted above and the anger it has generated among his biggest fans, well, I guess there really is more truth behind the term than I originally thought.
In terms of any criticism I've ever leveled against DeRozan, the last 2 games was the perfect illustration of said criticisms and expectations for his game. If in doubt, take a look at his shot chart versus Boston and his shot chart versus Washington. Then take a look at the box score. Then rewatch the game if it still has not clicked in.
The Raptors are a much much better team when DeRozan works within the framework of the team and is selective picking his spots to step up or create. Give me 25 points on 13 shots with 1 assist in a blow out win over a playoff team (Washington) any and all days over 23 points on 25 shots and 6 assists in a narrow win over an Eastern Conference weakling.
So if it is still not clear, let me try to put in the simplest of terms:
Ball dominant DeRozan = bad
Team oriented DeRozan = good
Anyone who can find anything to debate in the above observations to me are residents of the District of DeRozan because they clearly have the best interests of DeRozan in mind rather than the Raptors...... which is totally ironic because any success that the Raptors have as a TEAM is going to be credited to DeRozan first and foremost as was seen last year with his All-Star nod.
Here to hoping we see more Washington DeRozan moving forward. In my opinion it was one of his best games of his career and I'd be more than happy to cheer that guy on as a Raptor fan.
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NaijaBoy17 wrote: View PostLol so anyone who argues against DeRozan criticism is not a Raptors fan, rather they are a DeRozan fan?
What a narrow-minded point of view.
Step 1: ignore all content in post
Step 2: draw irrational conclusion based on half truths
Step 3: insult original poster
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostRather than hijack the 3 stars thread, I moved this response here:
Your criticism of DD isn't actually going to make him better, nor is supporting him going to hold him back. So there is no one right way to go about this. I dont know what the arguments are, so I don't know who's right in this, but I'd suggest that writing a long post on how some people are cheering for the Raptors the wrong way isn't going to further the discussion.
Having said that, I think District of Derozan is a pretty sweet name for a Raptors' fan club or something.
I think we'd all like to see more of the Washington game, I'm not sure who wouldn't."Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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stooley wrote: View PostI don't know the background of this conversation, but I took a quick peak at the three stars thread.
Your criticism of DD isn't actually going to make him better, nor is supporting him going to hold him back. So there is no one right way to go about this. I dont know what the arguments are, so I don't know who's right in this, but I'd suggest that writing a long post on how some people are cheering for the Raptors the wrong way isn't going to further the discussion.
Having said that, I think District of Derozan is a pretty sweet name for a Raptors' fan club or something.
I think we'd all like to see more of the Washington game, I'm not sure who wouldn't.
Bold 2: It has nothing to do with cheering the Raptors right or wrong.
Bold 3: Exactly. It is what many people, including myself, have been harping on about for a very long time. The Boston game was ball dominant DeRozan and that is bad. The Washington game was team oriented DeRozan and that was very good. DeRozan's game needs to be primarily team oriented - that is all I'm saying and have been saying numerous ways for quite some time. To have two games, back to back, which illustrate this so perfectly clear is a godsend. I'm not sure how there can be any dispute to these statements other than contempt and dislike for the poster.
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