Everything Derozan

[DanH]

Waiters is terrible. Not sure what statistical approach they are using, but it's the wrong one. Both WS and WP place him as one of the worst SG's in the league, and even xRAPM has him barely a positive impact player.

[Rapzilla]

I just wish DeMar had this sort of confidence...

[mcHAPPY]

They said he needs to have another good season before they put him in Top 10.

That is fair but obviously that requirement is not a constant among the list.

Whatever.

With Lowry getting an AS snub last year and DeRozan not even making the top 10 in SGs (despite being named an all-star) there should be lots of fuel to drive motivation this season.... .hopefully both players don't put their own snubs above team success.

[MixxAOR]

This is what they said about Waiters

Waiters is combined minus-0.4 WARP during his first two NBA seasons, so the system might be a little optimistic with this forecast. What the metrics might be missing is the intrinsic value of Waiters' ability to create offense. Despite a well-bellow-average true shooting percentage, Waiters offensive RPM has been positive in both his seasons and reached plus-1.8 last year. If the optimism of his forecast proves to be warranted, its a scary proposition for rest of the NBA. Cleveland point guard Kyrie Irving clocked in at No. 5 in our rankings yesterday. It's probably not spoiling anything to tell you that James and Kevin Love will rate very high at their respective positions as well. If Waiters really develops into a top-five shooting guard, that will be something to see.

[MixxAOR]

Full Top 10

1. James Harden
2. D-Wade
3. Monta Ellis
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Dion Waiters
6. Tyreke Evans
7. Oladipo
8. Klay Thompson
9. Manu Ginobili
10. Lance Stephenson

Next 5: Kobe, Beal, Danny Green Wesley Matthews, JR Smith.

[Mr.Z]

James Harden is retarded, best all around player in the NBA?... Have you heard of LeBron James?!!!

[Mr.Z]

Full Top 10

1. James Harden
2. D-Wade
3. Monta Ellis
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Dion Waiters
6. Tyreke Evans
7. Oladipo
8. Klay Thompson
9. Manu Ginobili
10. Lance Stephenson

Next 5: Kobe, Beal, Danny Green Wesley Matthews, JR Smith.

Wow. I disagree with that entire list.

[chico]

Full Top 10

1. James Harden
2. D-Wade
3. Monta Ellis
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Dion Waiters
6. Tyreke Evans
7. Oladipo
8. Klay Thompson
9. Manu Ginobili
10. Lance Stephenson

Next 5: Kobe, Beal, Danny Green Wesley Matthews, JR Smith.

lol, this is wrong on so many accounts, that I can't be bothered to check what idiotic criteria they're going by.

this is wrong on so many accounts, that I feel this weird sense of comfort that DeMar isn't even in their top 15, lol

[Fully]

They must classify DD as a small forward for him not to make their list. There's really no other explanation other than that.

[Other Scott]

Where was Lowry on their point guard list?

It's sort of crazy that DeMar wouldn't be in the top half of the league in terms of shooting guards, especially with how shallow the shooting guard field is right now.

But yeah, this list is insane. Victor Oladipo at 7? Dion Waiters in the top 5? I wouldn't take any comfort in being similar minded to this list, OSK.

[rocwell]

Show this list to DeMar.. and we'll see 25-5-5 guy next year.

[mcHAPPY]

I'm not a demar fan or detractor at this point but to notake top 15 seems a bit sketchy.

Well he'll have lots of opportunity once again this year.

As long as he keeps improving I hope the media continues to give him the shaft! Fuel for the fire!

[MACK11]

Full Top 10

1. James Harden
2. D-Wade
3. Monta Ellis
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Dion Waiters
6. Tyreke Evans
7. Oladipo
8. Klay Thompson
9. Manu Ginobili
10. Lance Stephenson

Next 5: Kobe, Beal, Danny Green Wesley Matthews, JR Smith.

There's not one player on that list that I'd take over DeMar

[stretch]

Derozan plays at a higher level than Waiters, no argument there, but Waiters is a good NBA combo guard, not the 5th best shooting guard. His PER and shooting averages are decent, not outstanding. He doesn't suck.

[ball4life]

DD is a SF in their acct.