Everything Derozan

[Axel]

We'd still be able to offer Tobias Harris a near-max contract starting at 14.9M instead of 15.8M.

Imagine that...

Lowry/Wright/Vet Min
Tucker/Ross/Powell
Harris/JJ/Bruno
Favors/PP/Daniels
JV/BeBe/Vet Min

I don't love the idea of Tucker starting at SG. Him and Harris together would create spacing issues (although our defence would be pretty damn good). Still, a solid roster moving forward. Tucker seems like a guy you could flip too (solid defender, reasonable contract).

[DanH]

Tucker and Harris shoot 35% and 36% from 3 respectively. Not exactly a spacing disaster. I mean, right now we have DeMar who's never broken 30% and Ross who was 37% last season.

[KHD]

I don't love the idea of Tucker starting at SG. Him and Harris together would create spacing issues (although our defence would be pretty damn good). Still, a solid roster moving forward. Tucker seems like a guy you could flip too (solid defender, reasonable contract).

Tucker and Harris are both much better 3pt shooters than Derozan, and in fact close to Ross's percentage (~35% for each, compared to Ross at 37%)

[mcHAPPY]

We'd still be able to offer Tobias Harris a near-max contract starting at 14.9M instead of 15.8M.

Imagine that...

Lowry/Wright/Vet Min
Tucker/Ross/Powell
Harris/JJ/Bruno
Favors/PP/Daniels
JV/BeBe/Vet Min

Oh I imagine...frequently.

I would put ross at SG and have tucker first wing off bench.

If ross continues to poop the bed like last year, I'd switch it up later.

Have to give ross an opportunity to play to his strengths in natural position. Hopefully it happens before he is overpaid or goes elsewhere and becomes the next Danny green

[Axel]

Tucker and Harris shoot 35% and 36% from 3 respectively. Not exactly a spacing disaster. I mean, right now we have DeMar who's never broken 30% and Ross who was 37% last season.

I dunno, the last time Tucker played the majority of his minutes at SG (3 seasons ago), he only shot 31% (so basically DD territory). Think he'll struggle to get open looks against quicker defenders at SG.

[mcHAPPY]

Imagine a small ball lineup of

Lowry
Ross
Tucker
Harris
PP

No interior D but should be fun on O

[KHD]

Imagine a small ball lineup of

Lowry
Ross
Tucker
Harris
PP

No interior D but should be fun on O

ugh

[ceez]

I wonder about this:

PHX: DeRozan, Burke, 2016 Raps pick, 2017 Clippers pick
Utah: Bledsoe
Toronto: Favors, Tucker

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=q4zkcyd

Fails now but would go through after moratorium when Raptors have cap space.


Utah clears $2.2M to allow them to offer a max contract to 7-9 year player.
PHX clears $7M to allow them to offer a max contract 7-9 year player.

hmmm this is actually pretty plausible

would have to get a shooter or 2 though

[JWash]

Oh I imagine...frequently.

I would put ross at SG and have tucker first wing off bench.

If ross continues to poop the bed like last year, I'd switch it up later.

Have to give ross an opportunity to play to his strengths in natural position. Hopefully it happens before he is overpaid or goes elsewhere and becomes the next Danny green

DeRozan is basically the SF on both sides of the ball anyway, he usually guards the bigger defender.

If we moved the ball better and had some form of structured non-iso offense, Ross would be above 40% from 3, and DeRozan would probably crack 30% while being more efficient from other areas.

But let's just ignore all that cause it doesn't matter and no matter what system DD is in he'd be a chucker.

[mcHAPPY]

hmmm this is actually pretty plausible

would have to get a shooter or 2 though

Everything I propose is plausible

[Primer]

So why do people believe Harris deserve the max more than DD?

DD's max deal will be $10M more per year than Harris max deal. Massive difference.

[Apollo]

If Lou comes back, it is essential that he sign for 7.1M starting salary. If you have to give him 5 years and max raises, so the average works up to 8.2M per year, so be it. Because that means you still have room to make a max offer on a guy like Harris.

You want to ask yourself does a five year deal for that kind of money still look like a good deal in two or three years from now. If the answer is no then they shouldn't be doing that.

[JWash]

So why do people believe Harris deserve the max more than DD?

Have you been following?

Max goes up significantly in 2016
Harris is 4 year vet vs dd going to be 7 year - that takes on about $3m to starting salary.

I'm not even going to bother on game because I broke my keyboard off my head.

Calm down man, he didn't know that the maxes aren't the same. Not everybody fully understands the changes coming to the cap.

Christian it's because Harris' max is like 15M or so while DD's would be close to 25M next year.

[JWash]

You want to ask yourself does a five year deal for that kind of money still look like a good deal in two or three years from now. If the answer is no then they shouldn't be doing that.

That's what I was thinking too, but an 8M deal is only like <10% of the new cap. It'd be equivalent to like a 5-6M per year deal now which really isn't too bad. Tbh it could look good in a few years to have a guy scoring 15ppg for that little money. Fans will probably freak out though if they see "Raptors sign Lou Williams to 5yr/40M deal".

[Apollo]

That's what I was thinking too, but an 8M deal is only like <10% of the new cap. It'd be equivalent to like a 5-6M per year deal now which really isn't too bad. Tbh it could look good in a few years to have a guy scoring 15ppg for that little money. Fans will probably freak out though if they see "Raptors sign Lou Williams to 5yr/40M deal".

A bad deal is a bad deal. It freezes cap that could be better used elsewhere...