Valanciunas needs to start hanging out with Mosgov and Asik and get on the "How to get big like a young euro nba prospect" diet regiment.
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
The Official "Welcome to Toronto, Jonas Valanciunas!" thread
Collapse
X
-
-
jbml wrote: View PostJonas Valanciunas Is Not Andrea Bargnani
I'm not saying he will be, but no one can tell differently (one way or the other) until he's spent some time in the NBA. I doubt he will be either, but there sure seem to be alot of positive people based on scouting reports and youtube clips that are, time and again, proven wrong. When guys as good as Carlos Boozer, Manu Ginobli, Dennis Rodman and Mark Price can go in the 2nd round (or a guy like Ben Wallace undrafted), and guys as bad as Adam Morrison, Darko Milic and Kwame Brown can go in the top 5 (with rave scouting reviews) its hard to put much faith in them.
Comment
-
GarbageTime wrote: View PostI don't think anyone is concerned that he will be like Andrea on offense. I think the concern is more that he will be like Andrea on the boards and/or on D. (and when I say 'like' its relative because I don't think I've ever seen a starting C that was so disinterested in playing D or rebounding in my life)
I'm not saying he will be, but no one can tell differently (one way or the other) until he's spent some time in the NBA. I doubt he will be either, but there sure seem to be alot of positive people based on scouting reports and youtube clips that are, time and again, proven wrong. When guys as good as Carlos Boozer, Manu Ginobli, Dennis Rodman and Mark Price can go in the 2nd round (or a guy like Ben Wallace undrafted), and guys as bad as Adam Morrison, Darko Milic and Kwame Brown can go in the top 5 (with rave scouting reviews) its hard to put much faith in them.
And one never knows if a player's skills will be able to translate to the NBA. Will Biyombo's? Or Knight's? Who knows. The things that work in Valanciunas' favour are that he has shown a lot of improvement over the last few years, he's a VERY hard worker, he's mobile, he hustles and he isn't afraid to do the dirty work. There's ALWAYS a place in the league for guys like that. Especially if they're 7 feet.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
Follow me on Twitter.
Comment
-
GarbageTime wrote: View PostI don't think anyone is concerned that he will be like Andrea on offense. I think the concern is more that he will be like Andrea on the boards and/or on D. (and when I say 'like' its relative because I don't think I've ever seen a starting C that was so disinterested in playing D or rebounding in my life)
I'm not saying he will be, but no one can tell differently (one way or the other) until he's spent some time in the NBA. I doubt he will be either, but there sure seem to be alot of positive people based on scouting reports and youtube clips that are, time and again, proven wrong. When guys as good as Carlos Boozer, Manu Ginobli, Dennis Rodman and Mark Price can go in the 2nd round (or a guy like Ben Wallace undrafted), and guys as bad as Adam Morrison, Darko Milic and Kwame Brown can go in the top 5 (with rave scouting reviews) its hard to put much faith in them.
Comment
-
Tim W. wrote: View PostI don't understand your argument. I can understand wondering whether Valanciunass will be able to rebound and defend at the same level as he does in Europe, but to wonder whether he's like Bargnani on defense and the boards doesn't make sense. You just have to watch him for a minute to realize he's nothing like Bargnani, in this respect. He has an interest in rebounding and defense, which Bargnani never has. Bargnani's lack of defense and rebounding were an issue when he was drafted, so it's not like they came out afterwards.
And one never knows if a player's skills will be able to translate to the NBA. Will Biyombo's? Or Knight's? Who knows. The things that work in Valanciunas' favour are that he has shown a lot of improvement over the last few years, he's a VERY hard worker, he's mobile, he hustles and he isn't afraid to do the dirty work. There's ALWAYS a place in the league for guys like that. Especially if they're 7 feet.
Maybe my statement needss to be read again or rephrased "(and when I say 'like' its relative because I don't think I've ever seen a starting C that was so disinterested in playing D or rebounding in my life)" Maybe the choice of words is poor... but when I say "like Bargnani" I mean poorly. Not "like Bargnani" because he will stand there like a rock picking his ass.
Comment
-
GarbageTime wrote: View PostAnd to Matt52 aswell:
Maybe my statement needss to be read again or rephrased "(and when I say 'like' its relative because I don't think I've ever seen a starting C that was so disinterested in playing D or rebounding in my life)" Maybe the choice of words is poor... but when I say "like Bargnani" I mean poorly. Not "like Bargnani" because he will stand there like a rock picking his ass.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
Follow me on Twitter.
Comment
-
Tim W. wrote: View PostBut why question whether he can rebound anymore tnan any other big man? There is literally no indication at all he will be even a below average rebounder in the NBA. He's active, tall, and has put up VERY good numbers in Europe. I just don't understand why you'd question it. Do you wonder the same thing about Biyombo? Or Tristan THompson?
To be honest when i see him play... i see a short Shaun Bradley running around. And that definetely keeps my excitment level with him in check
Comment
-
GarbageTime wrote: View PostWhy? He's thin, not very athletic and looks very uncoordinated at times. I want this kid to be good to. I want him to contribute. I know he's young so he'll put on some size, but enough? I hope so. But he's the kind of guy that if he can't develop his body significantly in the next few years is going to be eaten alive out there. He's definetely looks active, he definetely sounds hard working, and I know any NBA organization would help him work on his muslce mass... but if he is gonna play close to the bucket he's got a long way to go.
To be honest when i see him play... i see a short Shaun Bradley running around. And that definetely keeps my excitment level with him in checkRead my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
Follow me on Twitter.
Comment
-
grindhouse wrote: View Post
I found this jonas to be out of position alot on defense and not very good post defender but he rolls to the basket hardRead my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
Follow me on Twitter.
Comment
Comment