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  • stretch wrote: View Post
    I am not kidding, but after two games they're making Jimmer references about Pangos on the Gonzaga basketball forum.
    Hahaha Oh god.

    Basketball is back! And all the insanities that come with it.

    Actually just found this nice article on Pangos and what he could mean for the Zags program.
    (Note the 33 points he scored are more than ANY freshman ever scored for Gonzaga. Yes even Adam Morrison.)
    Last edited by Joey; Tue Nov 15, 2011, 05:23 PM.

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    • Myck Kabongo:

      Vs. Rhode Island Rams
      3/10FG, 0/3 3PT, 12/17FT, 18pts, 9ast, 7rebs, 3stl, 4to

      Vs. Boston U
      2/6FG, 1/2 3pt, 1-2FT, 6pts, 7ast, 3reb, 2stl, 2to


      Thus far it seems we have a new Rondo.

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      • Those are some ugly shooting numbers by Kabongo. But if DeRozan can learn how to shoot, anyone can

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        • well he is almost an exact clone of rondo. Plays just like him, quick, athletic, great passer, and takes it to the rim with speed.

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          • I am so hot for Kidd-Gilchrest it's borderline disturbing. Reminds me so much of Westbrook in college, non-stop motor and insane athleticism. Excellent defender. Oof, gimme some of that.
            @sweatpantsjer

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            • NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
              well he is almost an exact clone of rondo. Plays just like him, quick, athletic, great passer, and takes it to the rim with speed.
              Rondo is 6 years ahead though. It will be interesting to see what Kabongo's shooting percentages are looking like with work in time.

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              • ceez wrote: View Post
                I am so hot for Kidd-Gilchrest it's borderline disturbing. Reminds me so much of Westbrook in college, non-stop motor and insane athleticism. Excellent defender. Oof, gimme some of that.
                I am starting to feel the same about Anthony Davis. The combination of Davis' length, skill set, and motor is beyond rare. The biggest knock against him is his size and that is valid with the rigors of the NBA but guys like Garnett(earlier in his career) and Durant are able to compete despite their rail frames.

                Throughout the preseason, John Calipari has preached the importance of making the "easy play" to his team. Kentucky has a roster full of players capable of doing it all and dominating on their own, but Calipari knows the Wildcats will maximize their potential only by sharing the load and picking their spots.

                Perhaps no Cat has more of an adjustment to make in that regard than freshman forward Anthony Davis. He was by far the best player on his high school team and was often the primary ball handler in spite of his 6-foot-10 frame.

                Even at the college level, Davis would likely score fairly consistently by bringing the ball down the floor himself, beating his man off the dribble and scoring at the rim, but with all the talent around him, that's not the most effective way for the Cats to do business.

                "It's been kind of hard, because in high school I did so much," Davis said. "Now, since I have people who can dribble the ball, people who can shoot and rebound, it makes my job a lot easier."

                Davis reported forgetting he was no longer his team's point guard on a few occasions in early-summer pick-up games, but those days are long gone. Instead, Davis has found a home around the basket. Taking advantage of his length and athleticism, Davis has transformed into a shot-blocking and lob-finishing terror, paving the way for a 23-point, 10-rebound, five-block effort in UK's season-opening 108-58 victory over Marist.

                Senior Darius Miller has heard the "easy play" refrain from Calipari plenty of times in his three years playing for him, but isn't sure he's seen a newcomer take the command to heart quite like Davis has.

                "He does what Coach Cal asks him to do," Miller said. "He doesn't try to do much than that and it's really helped his game out. He's really doing successful in what Coach Cal's tells him to do and it's helping the team."

                Miller took full advantage of Davis' precocious understanding in Friday's blowout win, as four of his five assists came on alley-oops to the big man.

                "It makes it a lot easier for us," Miller said. "It opens up a lot. Every time his man helps out we just throw it to the rim and he dunks it."

                Oftentimes, Davis' finishes came on possessions when the Wildcats are otherwise stymied, which demoralized a Marist team that thought it had played sound defense.

                "Think about it," Calipari said, "you play great defense and the guy is falling out of bounds and throws it at the rim and the guy dunks it and smashes it and the whole crowd goes nuts. You play zone, he's hanging around the rim, so you're doing a great job in zone, and all of a sudden your point guard throws it at the rim and he dunks it. It takes the wind out of your sails."

                Davis, with his relatively slight frame, doesn't have a post-up game to speak of at this point in his career, but his ability to finish at the rim makes up for that. Besides, UK has plenty of players able to score in the post.

                "Well, he doesn't have that game," Calipari said. "That's not his game. But Michael (Kidd-Gilchrist) does, Terrence (Jones) does, Kyle Wiltjer does. We have enough post guys."

                On the defensive end, blocking shots is most certainly his game. Marist, though, managed to successfully avoid his long reach in the first half as he did not tally a single swat. At halftime though, Davis was determined to change that around.

                "After a while, I told my team to make them alter their shot and I'll come over and block it," Davis said.

                Five second-half blocks later, the Red Foxes were likely ready to rid themselves of the man Calipari has dubbed "spider-man".
                Imagine a front line of Davis and Valanciunas if each had another 15 pounds on their frame - i.e. enough to help take the beating without limiting their mobility.

                Obviously that leaves 2 of the 3 of Bargnani, Davis, and Amir out but I think you could swap Davis for another high lottery first round pick - and if you attached a 2013 pick you might be able to get a fairly high pick in 2012.

                Anyways, my wet dream is ending now.



                For Teague fans, this is a worry although it is still an early season.

                Calipari will now be looking for the way Davis has embraced the "easy play" to rub off on his teammates as UK heads into a three-game East Coast trip during which the Cats will face Kansas, Penn State and either South Florida or Old Dominion.

                "Will you play the way you've played, or will you revert?" Calipari said. "Will guys play for numbers or play for us? I really think we'll be fine."

                Calipari was talking most about point guard Marquis Teague, who struggled a bit out of the gate after running the team very well in UK's two exhibitions. Teague coped well with the bright lights of Rupp Arena when the games didn't count, but things changed with the start of the regular season.

                "It's real and it's television and it's first time in this environment, my first game out of the gate, and he lost his mind a little bit," Calipari said.

                Calipari, though, has been in this position with a freshman point guard and knew what message to deliver to his latest young signal caller.

                " 'I've coached point guards before, and the ones that listen to me do fine,' " Calipari said. " 'So just listen to what I'm saying and stop arguing with me and just do what I'm asking you to do.'

                "He's a good kid. We've got players that are good kids, now we've just got to make sure they understand the fire and the intensity they've got to play with."

                Source for both quotes:
                http://www.ukathletics.com/blog/2011...easy-play.html

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                • stretch wrote: View Post
                  I am not kidding, but after two games they're making Jimmer references about Pangos on the Gonzaga basketball forum.
                  Not true, someone posted a link to a story by an NBC writer http://beyondthearc.nbcsports.com/20...ardom/related/ and the Gonzaga fans are commenting on it, this was not hometown fans hyping up their own player.
                  Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY

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                  • Harrison Barnes or Bust.

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                    • I wonder about the possibility of playing Anthony Davis at the 3. He seems to have the athleticism for it and has shown to have the perimeter skills (maybe like a Lamar Odom). Can you imagine a starting front line of Anthony Davis, Ed Davis and Valanciunas? I know some will mention the spacing or the fact that there's no goto scorer, but quite frankly, I wouldn't care. That's a lot of defense, a lot of rebounding, a lot of shot blocking and a lot of guys who you can't leave open for a second or else they'll get to the basket for an ally-oop.
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                      • Davis had 7 blocks last night versus Kansas. I would think the 3 will be his spot in the NBA like those other lanky guys like Durant and Daye. He looks a bit like Batum, even.

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                        • Tim W. wrote: View Post
                          I wonder about the possibility of playing Anthony Davis at the 3. He seems to have the athleticism for it and has shown to have the perimeter skills (maybe like a Lamar Odom). Can you imagine a starting front line of Anthony Davis, Ed Davis and Valanciunas? I know some will mention the spacing or the fact that there's no goto scorer, but quite frankly, I wouldn't care. That's a lot of defense, a lot of rebounding, a lot of shot blocking and a lot of guys who you can't leave open for a second or else they'll get to the basket for an ally-oop.
                          I was thinking about Anthony Davis at the 3. It will be interesting to see if he has the ability to play SF at the NBA level.

                          Tim, I don't want to give you an aneurism or send this in to a Bargnani thread but Bargnani sandwiched between Anthony Davis and JV with Dwayne Casey implementing a suitable defensive system and a boot in Andrea's ass could be very, very interesting and exciting. I apologize for the bulging vein and high blood pressure you are surely experiencing now.

                          At the risk of pushing Tim further over the edge in to a massive coronary, ED could possibly be flipped to get another first round draft pick that could become the PG of the future - Kabongo?

                          *EDIT*

                          But to be perfectly honest, I would rather see a front court of SF-Anthony Davis-JV than AD-AB-JV for the very reasons I know Tim is thinking.

                          If I had to chose between Anthony Davis and Ed Davis at the 4, at this point in time, it would be Anthony all the way.
                          Last edited by mcHAPPY; Wed Nov 16, 2011, 07:15 PM.

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                          • Matt52 wrote: View Post
                            I was thinking about Anthony Davis at the 3. It will be interesting to see if he has the ability to play SF at the NBA level.

                            Tim, I don't want to give you an aneurism or send this in to a Bargnani thread but Bargnani sandwiched between Anthony Davis and JV with Dwayne Casey implementing a suitable defensive system and a boot in Andrea's ass could be very, very interesting and exciting. I apologize for the bulging vein and high blood pressure you are surely experiencing now.

                            At the risk of pushing Tim further over the edge in to a massive coronary, ED could possibly be flipped to get another first round draft pick that could become the PG of the future - Kabongo?

                            *EDIT*

                            But to be perfectly honest, I would rather see a front court of SF-Anthony Davis-JV than AD-AB-JV for the very reasons I know Tim is thinking.

                            If I had to chose between Anthony Davis and Ed Davis at the 4, at this point in time, it would be Anthony all the way.
                            frustrated

                            In all seriousness, I'd pick Anthony over Ed, as well, but I'd much rather keep both. I just hope that there is a chance to trade Bargnani before they would be able to draft Anthony for the very reason you state.

                            Maybe him and a future pick for another 2012 lottery pick to select Kabongo.
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                            • Tim W. wrote: View Post
                              frustrated

                              In all seriousness, I'd pick Anthony over Ed, as well, but I'd much rather keep both. I just hope that there is a chance to trade Bargnani before they would be able to draft Anthony for the very reason you state.

                              Maybe him and a future pick for another 2012 lottery pick to select Kabongo.
                              Ha, nice pic.

                              Forget Bargnani for a moment and pretend Toronto drafted Anthony Davis, unless Anthony can play the 3 (which I am not convinced he can) I don't think it would be in the Raptors best interests to keep ED, sadly. His trade value would be too high to address other areas of need. JV, Amir, Anthony, ED, and Alabi are too many young bigs who all can play (well, Alabi yet to be proven) - and we have forgotten Bargnani too.

                              I can't wait to see how it all plays out. Exciting times to be a Raptors fan.

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                              • Matt52 wrote: View Post
                                Ha, nice pic.

                                Forget Bargnani for a moment and pretend Toronto drafted Anthony Davis, unless Anthony can play the 3 (which I am not convinced he can) I don't think it would be in the Raptors best interests to keep ED, sadly. His trade value would be too high to address other areas of need. JV, Amir, Anthony, ED, and Alabi are too many young bigs who all can play (well, Alabi yet to be proven) - and we have forgotten Bargnani too.

                                I can't wait to see how it all plays out. Exciting times to be a Raptors fan.
                                Yes, I agree that if Anthony can't play the 3 then Davis needs to be traded. I'd just love it if it was possible to keep both. Of course, the Raptors haven't drafted anyone from that class, yet, so it's all moot at this point.
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