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I relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.
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Blocks are not a good indicator of defense.
Look at Tyson chandler. 5 of last 7 years averaged 1.1 blk per game with outliers being 1.4 and 1.2.
Now are there great defensive players who block shots? Of course. But hardly tell tale sign of defensive contribution.
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Watched all of them games... JV didn't play too many minutes over the last couple of games, so his averages went down considerably. The coach had to figure out who to cut, so other guys got lots of PT.
Also, in most games, over 50% of the opponents shot attempts were threes. Rebounds were long and were collected by guards and forwards mostly. In those games, I think JV had more offensive boards than defensive ones.
The lithuanian team is really big in general, rarely do you see opponents taking it to the rim against them. It's mostly threes, long twos and floaters. Not much to block.
But that doesn't mean JV was great on defense. His positioning and awareness have improved considerably. He's fouling a lot less. I think he never collected more than 3 fouls, and most of them were smart or necessary fouls. But he still get's a little lost on rotations and leaves his man too quickly when he thinks his teammate needs help. What doesn't help is that in international ball a lot of bigs like the outside shot and as soon as JV is drawn out to the perimeter, he really looks out position and this is were they come up with smart quick plays for guards who take it to the rim and JV just doesn't get back in time for rim protection...
Offensively he looked dominate throughout all of the games though. It's like he flips on the switch whenever he wants and scores like 10 points in a row. Then the team goes back to experimenting different offensive sets... Can't wait for the real games to begin!
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BadDinosaur wrote: View PostWatched all of them games... JV didn't play too many minutes over the last couple of games, so his averages went down considerably. The coach had to figure out who to cut, so other guys got lots of PT.
Also, in most games, over 50% of the opponents shot attempts were threes. Rebounds were long and were collected by guards and forwards mostly. In those games, I think JV had more offensive boards than defensive ones.
The lithuanian team is really big in general, rarely do you see opponents taking it to the rim against them. It's mostly threes, long twos and floaters. Not much to block.
But that doesn't mean JV was great on defense. His positioning and awareness have improved considerably. He's fouling a lot less. I think he never collected more than 3 fouls, and most of them were smart or necessary fouls. But he still get's a little lost on rotations and leaves his man too quickly when he thinks his teammate needs help. What doesn't help is that in international ball a lot of bigs like the outside shot and as soon as JV is drawn out to the perimeter, he really looks out position and this is were they come up with smart quick plays for guards who take it to the rim and JV just doesn't get back in time for rim protection...
Offensively he looked dominate throughout all of the games though. It's like he flips on the switch whenever he wants and scores like 10 points in a row. Then the team goes back to experimenting different offensive sets... Can't wait for the real games to begin!I relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostBlocks are not a good indicator of defense.
Look at Tyson chandler. 5 of last 7 years averaged 1.1 blk per game with outliers being 1.4 and 1.2.
Now are there great defensive players who block shots? Of course. But hardly tell tale sign of defensive contribution.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostIt's more about the competition. Those numbers are really low seeing who his playing against. Personally I've accepted that JV will never be the great two way Center that we all want. He'll always need a defensive anchor at the 4 or 5.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostFor someone who has long supported/defended DD, a player it took 5 years to really come into his own, and one who's still average defensively, you seem to really lack patience with Jonas, who's only played 2 years, and is playing a much more difficult position especially defensively.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostIt's more about the competition. Those numbers are really low seeing who his playing against. Personally I've accepted that JV will never be the great two way Center that we all want. He'll always need a defensive anchor at the 4 or 5.
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Due to his potential offensive ability, I expect him to be one of the top all around centers in the league in the next few years.Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostIt's more about the competition. Those numbers are really low seeing who his playing against. Personally I've accepted that JV will never be the great two way Center that we all want. He'll always need a defensive anchor at the 4 or 5.
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JV is just turned 22. If you've already placed limits on him then any improvements will surely be a welcome surprise, no?
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MixxAOR wrote: View Postyeah I'm not going to judge a centre who is coming into his third year and write him off.
He's not elite rim protector right now. But he's better than Al Jefferson, Cousins and Drummond
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iblastoff wrote: View Postaren't you just looking at opposing FG attempts at the rim? plus that data is per game, which jonas definitely plays less minutes than those 3 guys.
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