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DogeLover1234 wrote: View Post
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planetmars wrote: View PostHow do you define star? I think JV's a top 5 center right now - definitely top 10. In no particular order, he'd probably be ranked after Davis, Cousins, M Gasol (and coming off his injury, his placement is questionable) and KAT. I don't think he's any worse than Jordan or Drummond or even Whiteside who all have major deficiencies.
BUT JV better get going now because Myles Turner is going to be crack that top 5 within 2-3 years guaranteed. IMO he's going to be just a slight notch under KAT and AD.
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KHD wrote: View Postlol.
the only reason drafting TT over JV doesn't look like a total gaffe is because Lebron came back.
I hate the hype players around LBJ get. CLE was a EC contender year in and out when he was there, he leaves they were the worst team in the league with the same group.
Kyrie couldn't even get the Cavs outta bottom feeder status (not to mention out East which was terrible before). LBJ comes knows how to use Kyrie's (incredibly skilled) tunnel vision and all of sudden he's supposedly the best PG in the East, puhlease. I would never wish an injury on any player and especially an all-time great but man how exposed CLE would be if LeBron went down. I seriously have no idea where they would rank in the East but I would guarantee the definitely wouldn't be anywhere near top 4 which also speaks to how overrated Kyrie and Love are and how much we overly hate on Kyle and DeMar.
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KHD wrote: View Posti dunno man, i'd say if your C is dropping 25 and 10, he can be a pretty average defender and still be a big positive and an all-star.
JV isn't a star defender but if we get playoff / last night JV on a regular basis, he's a pretty good one.
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JV remains on the cusp but that is largely still due to minutes more than anything. Even with his great playoff performances, he still only averaged 26.8 mpg. If Casey ever really unleashes JV, he would be absolutely in the all-star conversation every year. He doesn't need to be Shaq (HOFer) to be a legit star big man in today's NBA.
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Axel wrote: View PostJV remains on the cusp but that is largely still due to minutes more than anything. Even with his great playoff performances, he still only averaged 26.8 mpg. If Casey ever really unleashes JV, he would be absolutely in the all-star conversation every year. He doesn't need to be Shaq (HOFer) to be a legit star big man in today's NBA.
http://forums.raptorsrepublic.com/sh...295#post366295
For reference, DeMar has only ever posted 5 games with a GS higher than 28.5 (across which he averaged 40 MP). Lowry has only ever posted 14 games that good (he also averaged 40 MP across those 14 games). JV is showing that with minutes he can produce as well as our all star guard duo can.
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Jangles wrote: View PostIf the Cavs had drafted JV in 2011... wow
Drafting Thompson and then Waiters the next year...the kind of mistakes that can only be erased by getting LeBron. These guys are very lucky he's from Cleveland and cares about playing for his hometown. Management wise its still hard to point to any right move the Cavs have made.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostOr Drummond in 2012.
Drafting Thompson and then Waiters the next year...the kind of mistakes that can only be erased by getting LeBron. These guys are very lucky he's from Cleveland and cares about playing for his hometown. Management wise its still hard to point to any right move the Cavs have made.
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