Both Chandler and Batum are highly talented players with the ability to perform on both ends of the court. Both would fit in well with what the Raptors are trying to build. Both are very young, Batum being a year younger. If Chandler looks to get his money right now and bypass summer free agency he's not going to have as many bidders. What that means to me is that the Raptors are more likely to get him at a fair price, instead of what a market with lots of money to burn dictates. Timing is everything. My vote is with Chandler because he will be the more economical option and the level of talent between both is very comparable.
Last edited by Apollo; Tue Jan 31st, 2012 at 08:34 AM. Reason: .
Wilson Chandler's numbers were very consistent with some small incremental progress every year. While I do not suggest he has reached his ceiling, I suspect he is close to it.
Nicolas Batum's shooting percentages are all over the place, with averages that are higher than Chandler's and high numbers which are much higher than Chandler's. His norm has yet to be established with a high degree of confidence and thus, if I was gambling, I might take a chance his norm will be close enough to his historical high numbers.
In other words, I think Wilson Chandler is the safe player while Nicolas Batum is still an enigma.
Yeah, the Blazers are much better off matching and figuring out how to make it work via trades later. They certainly cleared some tax burden by amnestying Roy and so there is some wiggle room to be utilized there.
According to ESPN (sorry, the link is an ESPN Insider page), Batum is undergoing an MRI today, after injuring his knee. Could be a bump to Chandler's value.
They hand out MRI's like candy in this day in age. Batum said he thought he twisted it and he'll be ok but then again you never know.
I would prefer Chandler. Only if we sign him this season because we probably could get him for a reasonable price. He's a proven player, that's versatile, and consistent. He might not be an all-star but we are not paying all-star money for him. He would be a huge upgrade over our 3's and if we draft a 3 this year (and they become elite) he can be moved to a sixth man role playing both the 2 and 3.
Batum is already a good player (better than Wilson Chandler on average) but his norm is yet unknown. He is an enigma in that sense.
Nicolas Batum has averaged 53.4% shooting from 2-point land and 36.9% shooting from 3-point land so far in his career but with wild swings from year to year. These numbers compare very favorably to Wilson Chandler's numbers, 49.6% (2-point) and 32.4% (3-point).
Nicolas Batum would provide the Raptors with a serious 3-point threat and create spacing for his teammates, more so than Wilson Chandler.
If the Raptors sign Wilson Chandler to a reasonable contract, I have no problem with it as he is an average starter and a significant upgrade over what we currently have. I don't view WC as an impact player but neither would I see the small forward position as one of weakness anymore.
I believe there is a high enough probability Nicolas Batum will be significantly better than Wilson Chandler to take a flyer on NB at the right price. I think the Raptors should first try to acquire WC at a reasonable price before determining what is the right price for NB. What I don't want to see if the Raptors entering a bidding war for WC services, nor for NB if WC ends up with another team.
If Batum has no interest in playing for Toronto (there are some reasons to believe this is true), then Chandler it is.
Maybe the Raptors offer up Alabi and Kleiza? One is their GM's former pet project and the other used to be a Nugget and was well like within the organization. If they asked for James Johnson instead of Kleiza that would also work for me although I'd rather avoid that because the Nuggets don't have much leverage beyond matching an offer they don't want to necessarily match.
Batum and to gauge his interest in Toronto, where as with Chandler they just need to wait until he comes back from China.
I don't see Chandler still available by the end of this year. The guy went all the way to China to play just in case the season was cancelled. He likes his pay check. If an offer came around for guaranteed money I think he takes that over being a rental to a contender for a couple of months, IMO.
The only teams that could sign him outright for a realistic contract are Sacramento, Toronto, Indiana, and Denver - and even Toronto might not be realistic as they only have $4M at this time.
The Nuggets could have kept Forbes if they really wanted him but they chose to let him walk.
Surely, this guy can be replaced.
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