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ceez wrote: View Posti wonder if its a ploy by casey to keep everyone focused.
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Chisholm: Calderon could be useful trade bait for Toronto
Tim Chisholm looks at trading Calderon in a good read here. In case you are too lazy to read the whole article, here is what I consider the money shots:
The idea is that if the Raptors could get a good (even if not great) young point guard in return they should seriously consider moving Calderon. If they can get cap space without having to waste their amnesty on Calderon, they should consider it. If they can improve their draft position or acquire a top-20 pick, they have to at least take the offer seriously. The point of the recent posturing is to see if the Raptors can shake loose the kind of assets that they would want from a team looking to acquire Calderon. If they can, then great for them. If the cannot then they can act as though they were never considering moving him, keep him feeling loved and respected in the locker room, and know that they did their due diligence on his market value and couldn't get anything done. It happens.
It bears mentioning, of course, that the idea of trading Calderon just to trade him is not what we're talking about here. With each day that goes by his contract gets less and less onerous as it inches towards completion, which makes his trade value all the more potent. His value to the club, as stated by Casey and as evidenced by watching him play, is real and should not be taken for granted. Also, there may be one huge reason to keep him around for not only this year but all of next year as well, and his name is Jonas Valanciunas.
The Raptors have so much invested in Valanciunas that they are going to do whatever they can to ease his transition to the team and the NBA next season. One easy way to do that? Exploit the things he can already do well while you try and teach him all of the things that he can't yet do at the NBA level. That means taking his stellar pick-and-roll abilities and pairing them with one of the best pick-and-roll point guards in the NBA. You know how Calderon makes Amir Johnson look like a passable offensive player by running the pick-and-roll with him? Imagine that play run exponentially more effectively with Valanciunas and you get an idea of how valuable Calderon could be to Valanciunas' transition next season.
Just don't buy the line the team is selling about his availability. They are doing exactly what they should be doing, playing the trade deadline game exactly like it should be played, and if a deal comes around that makes sense for the team to execute, they're going to execute it. It's impossible to assess the advisability of any potential move without knowing all the factors involved, but know that the team is as aware of what Calderon offers as any team in the NBA and they are thus uniquely positioned to measure him relative to their own future as well as to potential trade offers.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostTim Chisholm looks at trading Calderon in a good read here. In case you are too lazy to read the whole article, here is what I consider the money shots:
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ceez wrote: View PostYou guys think the blazers make a move for a big with oden out for the year? i know the news is shocking to everyone, but clearly they can't bank on him and i read rumors of the blazers cutting him outright.
amir/ed for batum maybe?
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Anyone else think there won't be any trades? If there was something for Barbosa or Jose we would've heard by now. Barring a minor trade (Butler for a years subscription to Maxim) I don't see anything happening.
Usually wherever there's smoke theirs fire but it's looking more like hot air.
@sweatpantsjer
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ceez wrote: View PostAnyone else think there won't be any trades? If there was something for Barbosa or Jose we would've heard by now. Barring a minor trade (Butler for a years subscription to Maxim) I don't see anything happening.
Usually wherever there's smoke theirs fire but it's looking more like hot air.
BC has actually confirmed rumors that there is significant interest in several of his players, which I think is big for a guy who typically plays it extremely close to the vest. BC and Casey are both saying all the right things in the media, that simultaneously set the team up to be happy with the group they have or to make substantial changes. I'd be a little suprised if nothing happens to the Raptors roster at/before the trade deadline.
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I also wouldn't be surprised if the deadline comes and goes without anything in Raptorland happening (much like the overhyped NHL trade deadline).
Chisolm makes a good point about keeping Calderon for Valanciunas' development. But on the other hand, if a top 20 pick is offered, that provides much more value to this team than 1 year of Calderon passing to a rookie.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostTim Chisholm looks at trading Calderon in a good read here. In case you are too lazy to read the whole article, here is what I consider the money shots:
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Nilanka wrote: View PostChisolm makes a good point about keeping Calderon for Valanciunas' development. But on the other hand, if a top 20 pick is offered, that provides much more value to this team than 1 year of Calderon passing to a rookie.
We'd need something besides the pick coming back our way I'd imagine.
And its not just 'Jose passing to a rookie and making him look good'.
Its Jose being the Consumate Floor Leader that he is and helping transition a young Big Man into the NBA the BEST way possible.
And thats by teaching him on the floor. And Jose does that better than almost anyone in the league.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostCalderon for a Top 20 pick is not worth it in my opinion.
And its not just 'Jose passing to a rookie and making him look good'.
Its Jose being the Consumate Floor Leader that he is and helping transition a young Big Man into the NBA the BEST way possible.
And thats by teaching him on the floor. And Jose does that better than almost anyone in the league.
The only person I could think who would be better than Jose would be............... (hint: a Canadian).
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Matt52 wrote: View PostThe only person I could think who would be better than Jose would be............... a Canadian.
Whether or not Jonas is enough to sell Nash on playing here, I have no idea.
I'd guess not, though.
Now if you were talking about Kabongo, his Pick and Roll isn't nearly as polished. haha
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