Barbosa is a last-piece-of-the-puzzle type of player. We don't need to be wasting valuable cap space on an ageing 6th man, while the rest of the roster is still a complete unknown.
Yes, Calderon has arguably increased his trade value while logging heavy minutes this season, but unless a trade is actually consummated, increased trade value does nothing for the Raptors.
Im fine with Barbo getting signed long-term. 20mil for 4 years? too much. 2-3mil per year for 4-5yrs im ok with.
Oh, and as long as he doesnt play in the last 4 minutes of the 4th quarter. That offensive foul last night killed them.
And he's done that a couple of times in the past too.
I'm not a big fan of Barbosa. If he's hot he's a good scorer but he doesn't really bring anything else to the table and he's streaky. Hard to know what to think of an extension at this point. Depends on the money and length of the contract and it depends on what other options are out there. I'd rather see them move Barbosa for a younger player or pick(s) if they can.
and his demeanor is a very positive influence in the locker room, much like Calderon. As long as he doesnt go around sleeping with the other player's wives.
I would be upset if either Barbosa or Bayless were on the Raptors roster next season. They are both black-hole type players that don't understand the concept of team play. With a young core, those are not the values that veteran players should be instilling in the young players as examples of how to contribute to the team. Whatever scoring upside they might have is more than offset by their selfish, one-dimensional play. Trade them both at the deadline or let them walk in the offseason.
Although I do agree Bayless has problems finishing around the rim, I dont think that is a prerequisite for being a spark plug/6th man off the bench. He is very streaky just like Barbosa and I think he would actually be fine coming off the bench as a 6th man. Although all NBA players, especially younger players, strive to be a starter, Bayless seems to have accepted his role off the bench. He knows he cant complain about starting if he cant get onto the floor. For now he is still in a position where he needs to prove himself. If that means coming off the bench for a couple of years to prove yourself, most NBA players would take that and not complain.
For what it's worth I think within the next 1-2 years we will draft/sign/trade for Derozan's replacement and he will eventually be moved to the bench. Nothing against Derozan, he has shown some flashes over the last few games. On a contending team, which we all hope the Raps are in 2-3 years, I dont see him being more than a 6th or 7th guy, which is still a great role. For now i'm content with him occupying the 2 spot until we find a better alternative
i also agree with derozan not being good enough to start on playoff team too.. i hope im wrong on that though
besides BC has made it known that barbosa is one of his favorite players so if the money isnt too high i dont see BC letting him walk..
3 years and $9M would be good for me.
Include some incentives to get it to $12M over 3 years and I think that is very fair.
Personally I think he is just saying it so he won't get traded. Most players don't want to move somewhere where they have no choice. He was close to opting out of his contract last year to go back to Brazil to play. I think he's really not that interested in staying here. He rather just wait till the offseason.
Ryan Wolstat: Leandro Barbosa walked in to the ACC. I asked him if his Brazilian buddy Nene was signing with Toronto. "No man, it's too cold."
I wasn't a big fan of this comment, I think he should be recruiting guys a bit more.
I think you're being a little too sensitive. It could have been a joke. He could have been serious and that's what Nene told him. Either way I don't see the problem and I'm unsure how you can draw a line between that and him not trying to talk guys into playing in Toronto. It's not even his job to recruit. Management typically asks players to get involved like that and then it's usually the stars who are out there recruiting guys.
if they think its cold their a bunch of pussies thats all i can say.
I still think he will walk if we don't trade him. That's all I was saying is that he doesn't really care to be in Toronto but he doesn't want to be moved to location not of his choice for the next couple months. He is not a player that we are going to move forward with. I think there is places we can spend that money on. Unless we get him for a ridiculous price ( Matt's suggested 9 million over 3 years.).
Barbosa should be traded at the deadline for a young asset and/or a top 20 pick aka Kabongo
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