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I kind of agree with LBF regarding the lockout excuse.
Even if we had a full training camp, any team with a new coach would be at a disadvantage compared to established coaches (who already have familiarity with their teams). The lockout might exaggerate that disadvantage a bit, but I don't like the idea of using it as an excuse either.
Quite often if we look at the facts now we argue it as "it's easy to say in hindsight".
Maybe that is true but if you believed it at the time can it still be considered hindsight?
My point is that Colangelo's foresight hurt this franchise because as we know now he considers Andrea to be a 4. Could the draftin of Andrea still be considered "building around Bosh" when as a GM you drafted an inferior player at the same position as your best player? Can you consider it the best option to draft him when most scouts would have probably indicated that Aldride was a better 4 prospect than Andrea?
Colangelo had been scouting Andrea for a couple of years and was familiar with him I agree. That doesn't mean he didn't make a mistake in drafting him if he was indeed building around Bosh like he has said.
The Raps, on the other hand, 180'ed the system by replacing Jay with DC and definitely have been changing the "culture" in the locker room. On top of that they added 4 or 5 new players at the beginning of the year (2 new starters on opening night) moved AB to the 4 and then tell me that this young, talent deprived squad wasn't adversely effected by a lack of a camp.
The bottom line is they just aren't talented or experienced enough regardless of a TC but that does not negate the fact that camp (and summer league to a lesser degree) is extremely important.
Don't forget with the compact schedule, there was limited time to practice. Early in the season they had full practices in between back to backs or after back to backs. However as the season wore on this was no longer feasible without running the risk of guys dropping like flies. The opportunities to teach were limited and video sessions or shoot arounds are not the same from my experience and in my opinion.
Systems and rotations that should have been taught in training camp and honed in season were introduced pre season, taught during season, and honed towards the end of season. Unfortunately, now there are 3 guys playing significant minutes on 10 day contracts so I don't know where this leaves the Raptors now.
Anyways, I'm babbling now..... great post.
I think Colangelo saying this was relative to saying "I can't draft or acquire franchise changing talent so I'm going to call Bosh a franchise player and see where this goes".
How can we honestly believe this (building around Bosh) when after he left he suddenly is saying that he is indeed not a franchise player, not the type of player to build around and he's thankful he didn't shackle the team with max handcuffs? Every team is going to have some kind of player turnover every year. Just because he signs a free agent or trades for someone doesn't necessarily mean it is done with an effort to building around Bosh because what players did he acquire (Jose doesn't count as he was here before BC) that actually complimented his game? His draft picks in the Bosh era weren't moves focused on complimenting Bosh's skills and game. I'm sure you'll disagree with this but I know you follow the game, when reviewing his player acquisitions does the list of players appear to be players that complimented his best player?
If Bosh had taken the extension Colangelo would be saying the opposite. I don't trust anything Colangelo says and the more he says something doesn't bring anymore truth to it.
A new coach is always at a disadvantage. But, even if we were at the biggest disadvantage due to the lockout. That's no longer valid in mid-april.
Also, even if there was no lockout we still wouldn't make the playoffs. Nor will we make the playoffs next year at least it's very unlikely.
the next off season was an attempt at re-capturing the forward momentum we had lost and failed. then a last ditch effort to swing for the fences with hedo, no longer in build around bosh but now in a build to hopefully not lose bosh mode, screwed us for a year. lost a very good player for next to nothing and actually started building a team again. as a franchise we were in purgatory for a couple years after garbo and tj and are just now getting realizing where we are and who we are again.
i don't remember bosh ever saying he was only ever a complimentary player and didn't deserve max money. if they could have worked all 3 of them getting paid in miami, they all would have. i do remember them talking about the couple of million in non endorsement deals they would be leaving on the table like it was the most noble of things anyone could ever do. whilst immediately signing lucrative milk sponsorships.
I have no idea why we ditched Marion because we didn't want to pay him 10 mill. and then signed Hedo(the worse of the two) for more.
I think that this discussion is a lot of panicking.
For the first time in recent history we have a coach who is capable of actually coaching our team and changing the culture. We are in a good position with cap space and a high pick in a decent draft. I am not sure what more you could ask for.
As for Ed, he is way better than people think and he takes a lot flack because he can't shoot. 2 seasons, no training camp. He is one of the best defenders we have both on and off the ball and is clearly one of our best shot blockers and rebounders.
The fact is we're way off from being a title contender, but so are 25 other teams. All we can do is work with what we have and put the right management in place.
Every body says he has to bulk up. What was he doing from last April until this past November? Not spending time in the gym obviously. Does he realize it's on him to get better? If so, what has he improved from last year. If he doesn't change his head around he will be out of the league or a perennial 13th guy off the bench in 3 years.
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