That would be a Hells naw!!!!! He seems like a cancer with his attitude.
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On a related 'unlikely Raptors deal involving star C' thought, I was reading a few rumors on ESPN/CNNSI that Orlando may be looking to move Howard "sooner rather than later". Obviously the Raptors have Valanciunas set to come over next season, but what if...
If Howard was willing to sign long-term with the Raptors to be 'the man' for an entire country, I'm curious what the consensus would be for a deal that would likely start with the Raps sending their 2012 lottery pick & Valanciunas & DeRozan to Orlando for Howard, thus using their entire $12M cap space to absorb his contract (some filler like Davis or JJ or Forbes might also need to go to Orlando for salary purposes). A Raptors starting lineup next season that could coneceivably start with Howard, Bargnani and Nash...
As good as Howard is and as interesting as a front court pairing of Howard/Bargnani might be, I'd personally be a little wary of throwing all the trade assets and cap space at one player. But an intriguing, albeit unlikely thought.
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are we finally at the point where we have exhausted all other discussion. Howard wants to leave a large market with no state income tax....he is not going to come to a smaller market with lube requiring taxes.For still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostOn a related 'unlikely Raptors deal involving star C' thought, I was reading a few rumors on ESPN/CNNSI that Orlando may be looking to move Howard "sooner rather than later". Obviously the Raptors have Valanciunas set to come over next season, but what if...
If Howard was willing to sign long-term with the Raptors to be 'the man' for an entire country, I'm curious what the consensus would be for a deal that would likely start with the Raps sending their 2012 lottery pick & Valanciunas & DeRozan to Orlando for Howard, thus using their entire $12M cap space to absorb his contract (some filler like Davis or JJ or Forbes might also need to go to Orlando for salary purposes). A Raptors starting lineup next season that could coneceivably start with Howard, Bargnani and Nash...
As good as Howard is and as interesting as a front court pairing of Howard/Bargnani might be, I'd personally be a little wary of throwing all the trade assets and cap space at one player. But an intriguing, albeit unlikely thought.
I totally agree, FAs keep criticizing Canada for its taxes and weather, but what they dont get is that when they play in NY or LA, they get a state, when you play for Toronto, you get a country!
I would be more interested in seeing a JV/Bynum pairing than a Howard/Bargnani. That's just my opinion tho.
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You did make it clear...I was just buggin' ya.
You raise some legit points regarding Howard. But as a sports fan, what he's done to the Magic franchise has left a very sour taste in my mouth (I feel especially bad for SVG).
As great of a talent Howard is, I can't say with certainty that I'd be happy to see him in Toronto (speaking purely about his character).
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tbihis wrote: View PostIf Bynum is willing to bolt LA, should the Raps be interested?
What do you guys think?
Bynum for Calderon and Bargnani?
I beleive Bynum is in the player option year of his contract (I could be wrong)? If so, not much risk involved.
The only issue with this is the Lakers have NO interest in giving up Bynum for Bargnani and Calderon. They would be considered a laughing stock for making such a poor trade
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Matt52 wrote: View PostI would not give up any assets for Bynum.
He is a great player but he is also a great pain in the bottom.
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sleepz wrote: View PostIn a heartbeart. JV can learn on the job or play him at the 4 until you feel comfortable he can handle NBA 5's.
I beleive Bynum is in the player option year of his contract (I could be wrong)? If so, not much risk involved.
The only issue with this is the Lakers have NO interest in giving up Bynum for Bargnani and Calderon. They would be considered a laughing stock for making such a poor trade
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planetmars wrote: View PostI'm not a huge Bargnani fan, but if we traded Calderon and Bargnani for Bynum, and Bynum leaves after one year, you have basically given Bargnani away for nothing. I think Bargnani could fetch a lot more than 1 year of Bynum's services.
What is Bargnani worth around the league anyways? No one knows and I'm beginning to think it's because no one offers anything of significance to even banter about it. Bynum is an all-star (with poor medical history mind you) while Andrea is not (and starting to develop some injury conerns of his own).
If Bynum works out you have arguably a top 2 centre (he's much better than Howard offensively) playing on your team. He doesn't work, you have sign and trade options and in the worse case scenario he up and leaves you have cap space and the rebuild continues the way it should, but you got Bargnani's contract officially off the books, which I think is a positive going forward for this team.
We need to take chances with talents that are franchise changers and if they don't work (we know Bynum is immature at this point of his career), clean the slate and continue trying to acquire game-changing talent. The best player in that fictional trade is by far Bynum. I'll take my chances with the better player all the time.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI'm not a huge Bargnani fan, but if we traded Calderon and Bargnani for Bynum, and Bynum leaves after one year, you have basically given Bargnani away for nothing. I think Bargnani could fetch a lot more than 1 year of Bynum's services.
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I would trade any combination of players on this team for Bynum. Hell, I would trade all of the players on this team for Bynum (I'm only slightly exaggerating, too). A 20-12 centre who distorts the game for any of the detritus on this roster? Kuphcak would have me at hello...
Point's moot because the Raptors don't have the assets to make the trade (Hey Mitch, do you really want Dwight Howard? I've Jose Calderon, Demar Derozan and Andrea Bargnani! Hello, Mitch, hello? Ah, we got cut off...). Even if the Lakers went crazy and did that deal with Toronto, what makes anyone think that Bynum would sign here long term?
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I totally agree, FAs keep criticizing Canada for its taxes and weather, but what they dont get is that when they play in NY or LA, they get a state, when you play for Toronto, you get a country!
Howard and Bynum are not going to be in a Raps jersey. Valanciunas is their C of the near future, and I think they'll keep the seat warm with Gray in the meantime. They have other needs that need more immediate attention.
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slaw wrote: View PostI would trade any combination of players on this team for Bynum. Hell, I would trade all of the players on this team for Bynum (I'm only slightly exaggerating, too). A 20-12 centre who distorts the game for any of the detritus on this roster? Kuphcak would have me at hello...
Point's moot because the Raptors don't have the assets to make the trade (Hey Mitch, do you really want Dwight Howard? I've Jose Calderon, Demar Derozan and Andrea Bargnani! Hello, Mitch, hello? Ah, we got cut off...). Even if the Lakers went crazy and did that deal with Toronto, what makes anyone think that Bynum would sign here long term?
Bynum's teammates like him.
Howard's teammates don't like him.
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