--> Transition finishing
--> Decent rebounder for a 2 guard
--> Good teammate
--> Shooting (even though he's been in the league for 3 season and as a solid work ethic, he still can't shoot. hmm...)
--> Defensive intelligence
I wanted to say he's got a strong work ethic, but the evidence is that he's been around for 3 years and still cant shoot. He also routinely disappears on O and misses assignments on D. These are signs of a lack of self-confidence (not something usually associated with a strong work ethic). I like Demar as a person and he could be a nice bench player/emergency rotation guy for a good team, but he's nothing to get excited over. His propensity to disappear and take nights off has not faded in 3 seasons.
Remember, JJ barely played for the Bulls and TIBs so there must be some underlining issues.
*Sigh* This thread should be merged with "Dumb things Raptor Fans say."
Moderators, get er' done.
And how did BC not see the Calderon situation developing? A lot of potential suitors have now addressed their PG situations, and BC seems caught off-guard that Calderon is unhappy, with very few trading partners left. Meanwhile, anyone with half a brain would've anticipated Calderon's reaction, regardless of how "professional" he's been in the past.
just let the topics run their course and drop to the bottom when they lose steam.
If 2 threads are about the exact same thing and are posted at the same time.. go ahead and merge. But don't merge threads just because they are semi-related and you are a mod who can merge things. It's so frustrating to be involved in an exchange and then is just disappears because some mod decided the board wasn't pretty enough.
It also sounds like BC had been talking to Houston about Lowry since well before the draft, so I'm guessing he already had his contingency plan in place. I do agree that the Fields offer might have been a little high, but RFA offers usually are and BC admitted as much... it would have been a genius move had Nash signed and he could still be made to look good if Fields returns to the form he showed during his rookie season and improves on that each of the next three years.
I agree that I'm waiting for the next move with baded breath, but I think BC definitely has been following a plan this offseason, whether we fully agree with it (so far) or not.
Alright, maybe instead of questioning whether he has a plan, I should've re-phrased to question the legitimacy of his plan
But let me put my two cents in again....
Bayless fits the system. DC and BC said from day one that they are instilling an uptempo type of game, fewer sets and more pushing the pace. And they even want to continue doing that towards next season - http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...ronto-raptors/. And we all know Bayless is an uptempo player. he pushes the ball hard and always tries to lead the fastbreak. Defensively, he was a 106 last season which i think is a bit above average. The reason why he "bounced around so much" was 1) when he was in portland, he played behind andre miller and roy 2) In NO, he played behind Paul and 3) the raps let him go because they acquired lowry and there were no takers for calderon and his massive contract.
DD took more threes this season and more perimeter shots than drives thats why his % took a hit. I dont think a 16/2/3 guy in his 4th season can be labeled as an 8th man.
Davis was injured coming to draft, did not have a training camp his rookie season and sophomore season, and is splitting time with Amir. Jury is still out.
JJ is 6-9 and 248. Lebron is 6-8 and 250. Artest is 6-7 and 260. I think he's the right size for his height. He had a 100 def. rating last season and 103 avg. so i think he's able to keep up with his man. unless you specifically point out lebron, durant who are basically unguardable. I dont think he is a legit starter, but he definitely play enough minutes to be a factor.
our plan is sh*t, but at least we have a plan!
..... ladies and gentlemen, your 2012 raptors offseason!
If you don't like the 'over-merging', bring it up with them, I'm not the one to rant about your problems to find a discussion.
This is nothing but another negative opinion which continues to be the reason why nobody likes to come and play for Toronto.
People are posting 'threads' which should be 'replies' and 'comments' on a REAL thread.
'Hey the team sucks, and they will for a long time because we have so on, and so on... ' Okay? What's your argument? Oh, Demar can't shoot. Than we go on and on about how Demar can't shoot, and his potential, his improvements and all that shit. Next thing you know, we are talking about Demar Derozan, therefore, merge it with the 'DeChosen" thread.
Catch the message? Or did that also dissapear?
Calm down, big fella. I did not intend to target your post specifically.
This thread has a poor title, but the subject is legit - the guy doesn't want to trade our young players for perceived upgrades due to past experiences like hibbert (funny that he didnt bring up bender, haha). It's a legit (albeit wrong) point that deserves to stand alone instead of merging into an umbrella thread where many discussions are forced together. Merging threads so frequently makes it difficult to find your past discussions and ultimately drives down the posting and readship of the site.
I think he has a plan. Of course, not all plans are executed successfully, specially in their business wherein moves are not just dependent on them, but with other GMs as well. They wanted to see if Bargnani is really a PF so they moved him to the PF spot and drafted a C in JV. They didnt add any major pieces last year to open cap space. they traded for Lowry who can address the defensive issues in the 1 spot. Seems like he had/has a plan and pieces are slowly coming together.
BC is a very good guy...humble. You have to put things into total business perpsective to excute the plan...in business you get thing coming out from left field unexpected or of low probability...BC knew that JOSE wouldnt be happy. BUT THIS DOESNT matter we're not here to baby JOSE like was done with VC...it all business
BC has a plan with the objective to make the team better with resources at hand...if next year we have more wins but stil dont make the playoffs...and show more progress then last....you see what i mean.
Things dont happen over night and you dont find Lebrons types on Yonge and Dundas..
Now to the topic.
I have optimism towards BC's plan, I'm quite excited with the addition of Lowry, because he automatically becomes a better upgrade at the point guard, and possibly our best player, (second, behind a healthy 13 game Bargnani ;P).
I think patience is required, the off-season just started OFFICIALLY 2 days ago, and we are already looking for the roster to be locked up, JJ is still on the team, we have an upgrade of Lowry over Calderon, and Derozan's experience with USA should be a lock for him on this team.
Gonna take the cliche quote someone said in another thread (I think it was Ceez) Rome wasn't built in a day. Trading younger, higher potential players for proven studs like Iguodala is a 50/50 opinion for everyone. But saying the team sucks if we trade our players who haven't fully proven they CAN be good, is thrown too high. If you think about, we let Bayless and Forbes go to open the opportunity for Lowry to be in the fold.
Please note...in professional sports...your only plan if in the building stage is to nurture your kids into star etc.
Everything else is based on UFA, player TRade demands, availaibilities etc... This second element is very tricky as you know not when the next player is available etc...
Planning is one thing...but in sports its very complicated to say oh lets get him. It aint that easy.
BC knows this...he's a fan of analytics software stuff but also realizes some things can't be measured...you can't measure Jose's loyalty nor Nash is off court impact. Regardless its tricky game...I'm biased perhaps but I like BC
and reality is who else would consider for a GM
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