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  • #91
    The Bulls played .594 ball in 32 games without Rose last year (including playoffs). Unless they commit to a full tank session, I don't think we can write them off completely. They're still a very well-coached team.

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    • #92
      This was my original.

      1. Heat
      2. Pacers
      3. Celtics
      4. Nets
      5. Knicks
      6. Bulls
      7. Hawks
      8. Raptors
      9. Bucks
      10. Sixers
      11. Wizards
      12. Pistons
      13. Cavs (injuries)
      14. Bobcats
      15. Magic


      With the Howard trade and a couple of Knick additions, updated:

      1. Heat
      2. Pacers
      3. Celtics
      4. Knicks
      5. Nets
      6. Bulls
      7. Hawks
      8. Raptors
      9. Sixers
      10. Bucks
      11. Wizards
      12. Pistons
      13. Cavs
      14. Bobcats
      15. Magic

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      • #93
        Nilanka wrote: View Post
        Unless they commit to a full tank session, I don't think we can write them off completely.
        I see Deng and Boozer both going down with "injuries" within the first 2 months of the season.
        Then its not tanking. Its "dealing with Injuries" ...

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        • #94
          Matt52 wrote: View Post
          This was my original.

          1. Heat
          2. Pacers
          3. Celtics
          4. Nets
          5. Knicks
          6. Bulls
          7. Hawks
          8. Raptors
          9. Bucks
          10. Sixers
          11. Wizards
          12. Pistons
          13. Cavs (injuries)
          14. Bobcats
          15. Magic


          With the Howard trade and a couple of Knick additions, updated:

          1. Heat
          2. Pacers
          3. Celtics
          4. Knicks
          5. Nets
          6. Bulls
          7. Hawks
          8. Raptors
          9. Sixers
          10. Bucks
          11. Wizards
          12. Pistons
          13. Cavs
          14. Bobcats
          15. Magic
          Agree with most of the updated standings, but i think the bobcats and the Magic should be switched. Certainly they will both go through complete tank sessions this season, but at least Orlando still has decent players like Turkoglu and role players like Redick and Big Baby. The bobcats have essentially no one near quality starting roles/bench roles other than Ben Gordon.
          Twitter - @thekid_it

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          • #95
            I can see us being in a pretty tight race with the Sixers, Wizards and Bucks for that 8th seed. A lot hinges on whether or not key players for each of these teams can stay healthy, and how quickly new players are able to adapt and integrate themselves into their team's system. I am, of course, slightly biased as Toronto is my team and I'm pretty pumped on how our roster's been shaping up, but I'm confident Toronto can pull through. Between Philly, Milwaukee and Washington, I honestly think they either made the wrong moves this offseason, or didn't make enough of them.

            1: Heat
            2: Pacers
            3: Celtics
            4: Nets
            5: Knicks
            6: Hawks
            7: Bulls
            8: Raptors
            9: Sixers
            10: Bucks
            11: Wizards
            12: Pistons
            13: Cavaliers
            14: Bobcats
            15: Magic
            Last edited by Phil; Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:53 AM.

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            • #96
              This how the end of the season will look like

              1: Heat (few additions can repeat)
              2: Pacers (unchanged)
              3: Celtics (old new additions will not help)
              4: Nets (chemistry)
              5: Knicks (Melo will he be a team player)
              6: Raptors (potential young hungry) first 50 win season
              7: Bucks (playoff team)
              8: Wizards (with veteran now can they make a playoff run)
              9: Sixers (little change address the center position)
              10: Hawks (tanking)
              11: Bulls ( no Rose no playoff)
              12: Pistons (not ready for playoff)
              13: Cavaliers (not ready for playoff)
              14: Bobcats (not ready for playoff)
              15: Magic (TANKING)

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              • #97
                mcsemcp73 wrote: View Post
                This how the end of the season will look like

                1: Heat (few additions can repeat)
                2: Pacers (unchanged)
                3: Celtics (old new additions will not help)
                4: Nets (chemistry)
                5: Knicks (Melo will he be a team player)
                6: Raptors (potential young hungry) first 50 win season
                7: Bucks (playoff team)
                8: Wizards (with veteran now can they make a playoff run)
                9: Sixers (little change address the center position)
                10: Hawks (tanking)
                11: Bulls ( no Rose no playoff)
                12: Pistons (not ready for playoff)
                13: Cavaliers (not ready for playoff)
                14: Bobcats (not ready for playoff)
                15: Magic (TANKING)
                50 wins????? Wowzers. Be prepared for some serious disappointment, my friend.

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                • #98
                  1.Heat
                  2.Celtics
                  3.Pacers
                  4.Knicks
                  5.Nets
                  6.76ers
                  7.Bulls
                  8.Hawks
                  9.Raptors
                  10.Bucks
                  11.Wizrds
                  12.Pistons
                  13.Cavaliers
                  14.Magic
                  15.Bobcats

                  I see the Raptors in the 8-11 range though. The Wizards and bucks could possibly pass them in the standings too.

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                  • #99
                    I don't get these lists. It looks like the Bulls are tanking, Orlando is tanking. New York played their best ball when they had a real point guard -- they don't anymore. The Nets added one starter -- they'll improve but playoffs? Hawks will have it tough. I really like the revamp Washington did, and the "new Sixers" ... In no particular order the 10 teams to watch should be:

                    Heat - Champs
                    Celtics - Getting older but enough young pieces to keep going
                    Pacers - This year they can make a big step
                    76ers - See above
                    Hawks - It'll be tough but they kept the most consistent pieces of their "core"
                    Raptors - An improving team traded a draft pick for a new leader, filled all perceived gaps, but will they gel?
                    Bucks - Weakness? An undersized backcourt
                    Wizards - Youth mixed with solid vets. Should be worth watching all year
                    Cavaliers - I like the young pieces they've assembled.
                    Nets - Like I said, they'll improve the question is how much?

                    Will this list change? Yes, pre-season trades and personnel moves still have to be made...

                    But, I know that I won't be watching a team with a patchwork back court with two overpaid stars whose games don't mesh. And I won't watch a team that traded away the best bench in the league while two of their starters won't be available for the start of the season. I don't want to see a team "led" by a man named "Big Baby" or a team owned by Michael Jordan (Until he inevitably gets tired of losing).

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                    • blackjitsu wrote: View Post
                      The Nets added one starter -- they'll improve but playoffs?
                      Well don't forget that Brook Lopez and Gerald Wallace only combined for 21 games last season. I think with those guys playing a full season, and D-Will having a lot of options now as a PG, the Nets are a lock for the playoffs.

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                      • ESPN experts have weighed-in... they have the Raps finishing 11th in the East

                        Link: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/82...east-standings

                        I can't see Milwaukee being 5 games better than Toronto, nor can I see Cleveland being better. I think it's fair to have Toronto fighting with several teams for the 7th & 8th spots.

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                        • CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
                          ESPN experts have weighed-in... they have the Raps finishing 11th in the East

                          Link: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/82...east-standings

                          I can't see Milwaukee being 5 games better than Toronto, nor can I see Cleveland being better. I think it's fair to have Toronto fighting with several teams for the 7th & 8th spots.
                          32-50?! That's way too low in my opinion, 40-42 seems more accurate to me. The Cavaliers don't deserve to be 10th, I'd put the Raptors and Wizards over them. Milwaukee, Washington, Toronto, and Atlanta are all going to be in the race for 8.

                          And could the bulls really win 46 games without having Rose for like 2/3 of the season, while losing 4 key bench players?

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                          • chicago is gunna suck, clevland isnt good and neither is millwauke

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                            • I think Atlanta is going to miss the playoffs.

                              There is no way the Cavs are better than the Raptors.

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                              • If my memory serves me, ESPN has had the Raptors pegged accurately from the last few years of forecasts. They had the Raptors finishing ninth just out of the playoffs that one Hedo/Bosh season forecast.

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